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Old 03-08-2007   #1
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Utah beta

I am looking for some stuff to run in southern utah in the first 2 weeks of may. Class IV prefered but any beta would help.

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Old 03-09-2007   #2
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anyone? anything about the area in that new guide book thats coming out?

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Old 03-12-2007   #3
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Try throwing this post in over at the eddyflower utard forum

Utah Whitewater Club forum:
Kayaking Information

Unfortunately I just started last summer and haven't had time, flows, or friends to run much so my main winter hobbie has been reading about kayaking with a little bit of playboating. But I've researched a lot, and here's some basics, based on research rather than experience, that may get you started in the right direction.

Southern Utah is a desert, thats why no one probably replied. There just isn't much to run, and when it runs, its not for long. The Virgin will probably run, and has some awesome scenery and decent whitewater in spots, but i suspect it won't run for long this year (like it did last year) and may be in late April more than May; snowpack isn't great for that area and its already getting warm. Early may could be a good bet though, to do some stuff on the virgin; lots of options from II to V. To get you started: Zion Narrows would be worth running for the scenery alone, but its a long day or an overnighter, with a slow hike/drag in, and no escape once you're in. From 250 to some where around 500 the narrows is fast, scenic and fun class III, above that it gets more hairy, I hear. Below the narrows, there is class II - manky V roadside through the Park, and the Park runs the shuttle for you! Below that somewhere is the class V timpoweep canyon, and then there is reporedly some good stuff down below St. George in the Virgin River gorge too that doesn't often run. Flows can be different on different sections as there are various dams below the park.

Price River (more central Utah) from Woodside (near Green River, UT) to the confluence is reportedly really good, uber remote, and very scenic from about 400 to 700 cfs, but not many people really run this section. Apparently there is a lot of class 3 with one easily portagable 4+ that has some bad consequences. Makes for a really long day (24 miles or more) or a nice overnight and the shuttle isn't too bad at all. You take out on the Green River and can either take out immediately or combine it with a few miles of fun class II if you want. I'd like to do it this spring.

Cottonwood Creek (one of the hundreds of Cottonwood creeks in Utah ) below Joe's valley is a fun creeky III-IV roadside run that is popular and gets great reviews.

Left hand Fork of the Huntington, nearby, is a tight and technical IV+ creek that the locals love, when it runs, which isn't often or for long.

Black Boxes of San Rafael are classic desert V, when they run (once again not often or for long), but this is not a run to be taken lightly with multiple portages, seives, an unescapable box canyon, probable overnighter with hike in and out, and mega remote factor.

Try Nichols' guide to Utah Whitewater...

If you go to N. Utah there should be some fun IV stuff running on the Logan, Ogden, Weber, and Provo around then.

Once again, you'll have to talk to someone else for some real experience, but I am a fiend for scouring the net and books and learning as much as I can about the limited whitewater in my state and those are some that are on my list.
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Old 03-13-2007   #4
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The new book should be out in the beginning of May. I talked to the Utah crew this weekend, and they said the snowpack was looking grim. Probably going to be a pretty dry season for exploring UT.

The above mentioned runs are right on. South UT is consists of 4 main sections on the Virgin River. The Zion narrows are the best. Easily run in a day with adequate flow of about 400 cfs plus. The shuttle is long, but you can pay an outfitter if you call ahead.

The stuff in the park is good, and the park shuttle will shuttle you and boat to the top.

Timpoweap is the expert run of the area. Beautiful drops, cool canyon.

Escalante River is the real gem. A week long IK self support trip with slot canyons. It takes a bit of planning and work to gather a crew. I'm in if it runs this year.

That's the scoop on the South UT stuff. Check out Muddy Creek and the Black Boxes near I-70. We paddled the Black Boxes in a very long day, but had adequate flow of 1200 cfs.
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Old 03-13-2007   #5
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thanks looks like some good stuff if if we can catch it, is my timing right or should i plan to go earlier or later.
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Your timing is close. It's too hard to predict, so just watch the gauges and keep your fingers crossed. I think we did our south UT trip before your dates, and our middle/north UT trip after.
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Old 03-13-2007   #7
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Looking for a boater friend, Just moved here.

Was hoping to jump on with some boaters here in utah. Just moved to Ogden and really am iching to boat but don't know of anything or anyone to go with.
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Old 03-14-2007   #8
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Doug, there is a UT forum where you will find more people to paddle with. Do a search on this site and you can probably find the link. I don't think any of us are from UT.
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Old 03-14-2007   #9
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The link is at the top of my post, in this thread. If you're going to live in UT, Ogden's a pretty decent place to live for whitewater. Lotta boaters in the area. There's one really good play wave on the Weber at high(er) water (Riverdale). One ghetto playpark for lower flows. And some good class IV in Ogden Canyon. Not far to Logan. Not too far to Idaho. Go to Riverdale when the weber hits 1000 and you will meet people. Or post on the forums or join the whitewater club.

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