Originally Posted by Waterwindpowderrock
The fact that there IS a hole, and the fact that it's big doesn't automatically up the rating, the question would be, how hard is avoiding it? Now if you HAVE TO run the meat... then you can base the rating on that.
Nobody wants to sandbag here, but over-rating something doesn't help either.
Nor should anyone under-estimate it at high water, that doesn't help either. Class II at high water? Probably not. Class IV at high water? Maybe not. Somewhere in between? Probably.
Just because someone ran the meat of skull in a 14 fotter doesn't make Skull a Class II either (lucky bastard! LOL). This is no different. Not saying it's a IV myself (haven't run it myself at this level), just sayin' assertions that it's so easy and is still a class II at these levels is not better of an opinion that the other I guess...
Damn. Now I want to run it...