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Old 09-16-2010   #1
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Update: Governor's River Access Dispute Resolution Task Force

Just a quick update. To get the full scoop please visit the Colorado Department of Natural Resources webpage: Home - Department of Natural Resources

The next meeting is September 22 in Salida at the Upper Arkansas Water Conservancy District office, 339 E. US Hwy. 50. Public input hours are 5 pm to 7 pm.

Future meetings and locations are noted in this website. October 13 in Glenwood, November 5 in Denver.

There is an email address for submitting written input/comments. PLEASE, do this.

The Discussion Summary for the September 2 meeting is posted there as well. If anyone would like a copy of my own notes, let me know and I'll send you a copy.


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Old 09-20-2010   #2
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DNR Press Release regarding Wednesday's meeting....

River Access Task Force Seeks Comment at First Public Meeting

DENVER, Colo. – The Governor’s River Access Dispute Resolution Task Force will take public comment on resolving issues regarding access to Colorado’s rivers at its first public meeting, scheduled for Wednesday, September 22nd in Salida.

The Task Force, established by Governor Bill Ritter in July, consists of 17 appointed members representing commercial and private boating interests, private landowners, law enforcement, and state government. It is co-chaired by Mike King, the Executive Director of the Department of Natural Resources and Rebecca Swanson, Senior Policy Analyst from the Governor’s Office.

The Governor has charged the Task Force with gathering public input and formulating strategies to resolve access disputes on Colorado’s waterways. Task Force members will generate a report and recommendations for the Governor and Legislature by year’s end.

The Salida session is the first of two outreach meetings and will be held at the offices of the Upper Arkansas Water Conservancy District, 339 E. Highway 50 in Salida. Public comment will be accepted from 5:00-7:00 pm.

A second outreach meeting is slated for October 13th in Glenwood Springs.

The Task Force will also consider written input. Written comments may be submitted by email to Riveraccess@state.co.us or by mail to Kim Burgess, Colorado Department of Natural Resources, 1313 Sherman, Room 718, Denver, CO, 80203.

For additional information, contact Bob Randall, Deputy Director of the Colorado Department of Natural Resources. For directions to the Upper Arkansas Water Conservancy District, please call (719-539-5425).

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Old 09-20-2010   #3
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This seems like a pretty important topic to comment on. I just followed the email address link above and sent the following email:

"Please keep Colorado waterways open for recreational use. With recreation being the 2nd largest industry in the state of Colorado, limiting the access to water would be disastrous for the economy.

I respect property rights but waterways should remain open for the enjoyment of all. The water flowing thru private property should not be thought of as owned by that property owner. Private property should be respected and only traveled upon in the case of safety or an emergency. Landowners should also have protection against any litigation from trespassers (someone hurt while portaging or scouting should not be able to sue unless gross negligence has occurred such as landowners placing hazards in the waterways).

As a kayaker, an employee of the recreational industry and a voter I ask that you please find an equitable solution to the waterways access issue and keep waterways open for public enjoyment."

CW: Is this the kind of response that is helpful?
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Old 09-20-2010   #4
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It IS helpful...anything is helpful. We really appreciate the input.

Fundamentally, we are not discussing or deciding the "Right to Float." The main focus of this Task Force in to attempt to craft a dispute resolution process to resolve future access issues and conflicts between landowners and river users on Colorado waterways.

From the last official Dicussion Summary:
Requests for information:
Data on level of boating/rafting activity on Colorado’s rivers, to provide perspective on how significant the need for formal processes might be. For example, if activity is declining, a standing type of dispute resolution panel may not make sense.
Information about Arkansas Headwaters Recreation Area (AHRA) Citizen Task Force (CTF) process
(Note: I don't see boating activities declining on Colorado rivers.)

From my own meeting notes:
We need to identify interests, who triggers the process (DNR, a river user, landowner?), who facilitates, who funds the process? How do we identify who is involved in the dialogue when an issue arises?

How do we characterize rivers? Type of river rather than a certain segment?

What are the trends? How often do disputes arise?

Plan needs to be nimble to apply at various locations and with various parties. Boaters, fishermen/women, any other users?

Messaging for Public Meetings:
We want to hear about actual cases and how things were resolved. If it was a bad experience, how could the process have been better? If you testify or submit comments, you will be providing information to the Task Force members, not to any governmental agencies. Comments will be catalogued for reference.

Hope this helps to clarify a few things. Any input IS really appreciated (and yes, you can flame this topic too). It would be great to see the boating community in force at those public meetings.

If you have any questions, please feel free to ask. Thanks,

Leslie T. (CW)
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Old 09-20-2010   #5
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2nd on supporting laws limiting landowner liability.
A friend's family owns land surrounding a great trout stream, and they happily let guided fishermen to the river because the company is insured, but don't let the public in because of the fear of a lawsuit.
As boaters, we want to have public access points to the river and then float through and otherwise completely respect private property.
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Old 09-23-2010   #6
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Can you please provide times and location for the scheduled Glenwood Springs meeting? Thanks.
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Old 09-29-2010   #7
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News story on Salida meeting:
River access debated - The Pueblo Chieftain: Local
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Reminder that the meeting for the Task Force is in Glenwood Springs. The time, location, and other information is in the following link. Home - Department of Natural Resources (The Task Force held its second meeting on September 22 and will meet again on Wednesday, October 13 at the Glenwood Springs Recreation Center, 100 Wulfsohn Rd., in Glenwood Springs. The meeting will be held from 1 p.m. to 7 p.m., with hours from 5 p.m. to 7 p.m. reserved for public input.)

Hope to see some boaters come to comment and offer some ideas. We had about 6 landowners and a few commercial boaters visit for the public comment period in Salida. Hope to see you in Glenwood...
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Stats for Upper Colorado River

Here are commercial and private user day statistics from Kremmling to State Bridge, in case this helps to have at the meeting.

From 2007 - 2009,

Commercial user days have declined from 37,000 to 33,000.
Private boater user days have increased from 20,000 to 25,000.
Gross receipts reported by our commercial permittees has averaged $2 Million dollars.

I can be contacted for more stats (2000-2009) if needed.

Teri Parvin
Rec Asst, BLM Kremmling
tparvin at blm.gov
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Old 10-13-2010   #10
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The dumb rancher is complaining about the most rafted stretch of water... idiot doesnt realize he lives in Colorado! And its county road not his road, dude is biggot.. hopefully the boaters make a mass showing in colorado! And the colrado beta is off the charts. Lots of private trips and I know most of mine were not recorded at kremmling.

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