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Old 07-03-2007   #21
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Sorry it has taken so long to respond to that sissy, I was a "little" intoxicated when I wrote that post, but I struggled through the hang over and went and fired up the Big Upper South Big Platte, and it was awsome!

Tripple Crown!!!

And then being the animal that I am I still had time to visit one of my favorite people.. . . Enforcers mom. She is one fine piece, I tell you what and boy can she cook. Which leads me to my next topic.

Of course I've put on a couple of pounds Enforcer, between your mom's cooking and Life's mom's desserts, I will admit that it is hard to keep up with this size of Mom harem. However the better to boof of your head with more momentum, its a physics thing, you probably were home schooled in Texas, and didn't cover that chapter, so I won't hold it against you.

But never fear, the Mom's have me on a strict diet from here on out. I will be eating only orgaic vegatables and rice, should do the trick. Also we (the Moms and I) have just installed some sweet harnesses in the bedroom that are proven to shed those unsightly extra pounds.

It is pretty cool that you "heard" that I was an O.K. boater before I was fat. I new your mom couldn't keep everything a seceret. Did she tell you the one how I was almost your Dad but she didn't have change for a $5.00. It's a good one, the next time she's reading you a bedtime story ask her about the alley behind that bar in Albequerque, its a doozy!

In closing, it looks like everybody else agrees with you, Cheeseman does suck, and I was wrong. It also looks like Bobber should be giving you some extra "sprinkles" on your pizza. I do apologize for not being good for the sport, I take that to heart and try to be more of a pussy on the buzz.

On a serious note, your Mom is sooo hot right now.

And as always, Enforcer is a douche bag, and boof and release.

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Old 07-03-2007   #22
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Hey guys...been a while. Spent the last year playing Army in Afghanistan and the last couple of months getting ready to retire from the Army...can't figure out what I'm going to do now that I have to grow up though...

AW is looking into this years access issues. Please email Nathan at with specific incidents you may have had. Nathan is AW's Colorado River Stewardship Director (AW has fulltime paid staff that resides in CO now!)

Gary E's advice is right on. The link below provides advice on how to paddle through SP

(Gary haven't gotten your email, but haven't checked all my addresses...send to

Remember SP monitors buzz...fair warned is fair armed.

As for the debate on the quality of paddling Cheesman. My view may not be the norm...I was lucky enough to paddle it 15 times in 2001. Most of the time doing the "portage" around SP. Levels from 230 to 400 cfs and all drops go at those levels. (I want to say one run was around 180 but not positive on that.) 300cfs is ideal for a first run.

If you really want the Cheesman challenge run/jog the entire 19-mile shuttle do the portage around SP and paddle every drop..."The 26-mile Cheesman marathon."

As for a being a have got to be trolling if you don't find this pegging all measures of Classic...

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Old 07-03-2007   #23
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It's about time Major! I used your NY email. Where are you son? Use

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Oh and one more thing. Your marathon is still retarded after all these years. Hope you're well bro.
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Old 07-04-2007   #25
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I know itís hard for some of you but maybe you need to read Routter's post before you get all worked up.

"Okay, okay, okay, before Cheeseman lovers out there get all worked up, I'll admit it's just about as beautiful a place as there is in the state. But the fact is, at least at 245 cfs, it just isn't very runnable."~Routter(its an opinion)

I think all Kevin was trying to say was a classic run should go at 5cfs below recommended levels (check the bible it says 250 min). I was on the cheese that day and I had similar thoughts to Kevin. In retrospect a guide probably would have been nice and a little more water may have changed my mind. But on a grander scale itís just a fucking opinion. Who the fuck cares. If you want to go run sieved out drops go for it. Itís a cool place for sure, I just donít know if id call it classic. (Classic sieved out drops if thatís what they are getting at) Itís still up for debate. But honestly donít tell me your opinion because I really could give a shit.

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