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Old 02-27-2008   #21
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I lost also!!!!! succckkkk..............

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Old 02-27-2008   #22
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Rich, thanks for your help. But I've read the rules 100 times, and I still don't understand why I only get 5 points for being on the old waitlist since 2001. It seems to me that 2008-2001=7 extra points from the old system. If I can't at least get a point for every year, how about triple my reduced points.

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Old 02-27-2008   #23
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Old 02-27-2008   #24
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Hi Jennifer,

There must be something about your situation that particularizes it. I'd suggest giving the River Office (800-959-9164 ) a call and asking for clarification on how the new rules apply to you.

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Old 02-27-2008   #25
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I always enjoy your words of wisdom, Rich. I sure don't see why we can't get a little more use for us in the non commercial season when they are putting on so much use in their short season. A launch or two more a day in their off season would go huge for us private boaters. We might not even need a lottery and could look at a call in system like Westwater. Just a thought.
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Old 02-27-2008   #26
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derk what date(s) did you apply for? i think that makes a HUGE difference in odds - much more so than your points since i hardly had any and got first lottery win.
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Old 02-27-2008   #27
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Gotta admit I'm stoked on the new system. It's only my second time applying and I'll be going for a second time. Dont hate, dont hate. I've been waiting for this for 15 or so years, I just never applied before b/c it was a huge clusterfuk. I like the lottery system. It's the commercials we gotta hate

And dates applied for is HuDge. Gotta go off season.
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Old 02-27-2008   #28
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10 chances...nothing...feeling blue myself, like I've been bad or something...nice to know I'm not alone, but I am drinking alone tonight...

download and look at the stats:
looks like most summer trips were taken by folks w/5 chances(probably first timers?)...I wonder if we'll see more winners w/fewer chances as those folks with mucho chances get their trips...and how does one get 44 chances? am I reading things wrong? gasp! IS rigged!!!
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Old 02-27-2008   #29
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fuckem all, just show up and run it patriot act stylee
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Old 02-28-2008   #30
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Yeah, I know season is a big deal. Unfortunately, I have this unmoving and unforgiving commitment for 9 months of the year and can't make it happen during Christmas because the resorts (business my family is in) is on a 110% schedule. So, yeah, I guess the dates I'm looking for are popular, but still, 5 years on the waitlist, and 3 years with 10 chances each year and nothing? And just like Jennifer says, the resentment only grows every year. I was cool with it for the first 5, realized the points system wasn't a guarantee so I was okay with years 6 and 7. But year 8, now with 3x10=30 chances, and I'm getting irked.

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