the burn is KILLING IT!!!!

[kurfothich]

I just got done with a 4 day stay on the Northfork of the payette river with flows upwards of 6000 cfs. And from what i saw the hardcore boys out there are all in burns! I paddled one i thought it was the best big water boat i had ever been in!!!!!! I will deff be getting one the second i get back to Colorado!!!!

[Mountain]

I like to burn.............

[basil]

Yea, right, one boat is just so much better than all the rest that you've got to own one. Buy it and you become a better boater and have lots more fun.

This is probably an example of the new wave of advertising that is sweeping the country. It's the personal approach that sounds as if it is not coming from the manufacturer when it probably is. Beware....

[Bobby Whitit]

HERCULES

[El Flaco]

This is probably an example of the new wave of advertising that is sweeping the country. It's the personal approach that sounds as if it is not coming from the manufacturer when it probably is. Beware....

Ah yes, the "Testimonial". Advertisers know that traditional advertising models are so diluted by the bombardment of messages we get all the time, so they turn to the PR approach to backdoor consumers (figuratively, of course). I'll admit that it raised suspicions with me too, but I'm in marketing, so bullshit's my specialty.

Now, I'm not saying that's what kurfothich was doing- he might be just pumped about the boat, and that's great. But I tend to believe that more often than not it's the paddler that's making the boat look good. One of the best paddlers I know won't paddle anything but a Diablo. On the flip side, I think my creeking has vastly improved since I bought my <<MANUFACTURER'S BRAND DELETED>>

[l-dot]

Originally Posted by kurfothich

After paddling the Diesel ive found that it is great in HUGE water, yet lacked something in smaller creeks. If your a fan of the M:3 or the H:3 the burn would be the boat from you. It almost perfectly bridges the gap between the creekboat and the river runner. you will run almost 90% of the runs in the burn and feel good about it, but there will be those runs that will scare you into a real creekboat.

Originally Posted by kurfothich

as far as i know the M:3 is going away but..... pyranha is making a boat to replace it, so if you can wait tell next year to get a new creekboat i would.

I'd say there is definately a pyranha bias.

[JCKeck1]

I definitely have my biases, but I would mention that I've only once run 6,000cfs in Colorado.

[Gary E]

Kurf, I believe those were h3's. I do hear that the burn is sweet though.

Gary

[kurfothich]

well...weather or not u belive im bias or not, the burn is a great boat! and i deff think that every one should try one

[Meng]

Yikes!

Can no one post an observation pro or con on a new boat without their inetentions being totally suspect? If the paddler/poster in question does have some affiliation or bias so be it...we all do to something and probably all promote our interests to some extent in the appropriate arena.

I for one am always excited to hear updates on new boats just before my season starts as it's impossible to demo everything and it's fun to get some ideas rolling about what to try. Thats at least part of why my kayak-geek ass (yes, you are a geek too if you are reading this instead of actually doing something productive) is on this forum anyway.

Just a different perspective.