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Old 08-16-2013   #11
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Originally Posted by lmyers View Post
What do you consider Elf, Phil? I certainly don't think of 350-400 as Elf...

My first season I jumped in at this flow without a roll. I swam pretty much every rapid in the canyon and it's very forgiving.

The bottom of Pinball (4wd rock) shouldn't be bad yet, it doesn't get tight until 300ish.

The ledge near the top of Zoom should still be padded as well.

Bottom drop of Staircase and Raft Ripper will probably be the toughest, but still pretty straight forward drops.

IMO 600 is probably the easiest level, but 400 isn't far behind. You don't get into Elf territory until flows get down around 300 or below, and at that flow some of the channels start to get tight.
Who knows? I think I'd still call 300 just low water. ELF in Browns at 250 or even less maybe. If they're still running rafts down it you can hardly call it ELFing, you know? We've seen rafts in there at well under than 300, no?

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Old 08-16-2013   #12
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Thx to both of you for the good info. Hope to see you on the river. I'm probably the only one with a Mitchell paddle around, a holdover from my college racing days, which may aid in recognition. I did upgrade to a carbon a while back. Still have some of my wood paddles, all with 90 degree feather which really feels funny now.

Cheers to a great fall.

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