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Old 03-12-2015   #1
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Driving up and down the SSV for skiing reasons. I have been looking a lot at the river bed above the Narrows to about SSSV confluence. Obviously very different then before the floods.

My question is did anyone get in there last year? Any plans to remove wood / junk before she starts to go again. I would like to help. I am intrigued by the possibility of this section.

Below the Narrows too! 5 & 1 looks really fun


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I have not run these sections but am interested in some preseason cleanup and paddling when the flows are up. I'm near Boulder so it would be a great after work run.

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Old 03-12-2015   #3
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It was run last year, but it's deteriorated a lot from it's former state. I gather the section below Narrows to 1 in 5 has actually cleaned up and was run quite a bit, though I never did check it out. That section has less gradient than the rest and less defined drops.

We ran from the Confluence and through the first few drops of the main section at flows that were a fair bit higher than I normally run it. The upper section actually seemed more manky than normal even with the extra flow. It's fairly mediocre right now. Once we got to the main section, the drops had changed but were actually really fun. With less water they might be more questionable - hard to tell. We got stymied by wood that was down and without any reasonable eddies above it and didn't have the time to pick our way through the rest. That said, there looked to be some newly moved rocks creating sieves and other strange features. I saw a video of some pro guys running the narrows last year and their rate of success wasn't too high.

It's definitely a lot worse than it used to be. I know Matt has been trying to organize an effort with the restoration teams to move some rocks and create a better riverbed for recreational use, but I doubt that will happen this year.

I think removing some of the existing wood hazards before runoff is a good idea. If I can manage the time, I'd be into helping out.
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There are a couple trees that need cleaned out but it's good to go. Don't run from the confluence down. Don't believe anyone who tells you it isn't good. There is one particularly nasty sieve right above Chicken Wing. The section above the narrows was great until the wood started falling. The section we ran most days was from the middle of the narrows to 1 in 5. There was wood in the first drop of the narrows, which is a cool smear boof now, keeping us from running the whole section. The section below the narrows is a fun IV+ to V- run. The high water last year scoured out the eddies so there are eddies again. As the creek was on the way up most eddies were just full of sand making it a little sketchy.
I spent most days trying to find someone to paddle with last year, but there weren't a lot of takers.
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Wood..... Yes....let's get the wood out. If someone can organize I will jump in. El Scotto and I cut out quite a bit. Then Tom Scott young and el Scotto got some more out. Last year that's is.....Looks like we need to rally and clean it back up.
Just tell me when....... Middle of April should work. There's for sure some runnable sections. I'm hopping to paddle it a little more this year. We also need to get a gauge set up again.

Working on natural riverbed restoration during all the work in the saint Vrain watershed. Can up date the buzz soon on that.

We just confirmed the course for the creek race this year. It's gonna be sweet. Last two drops of the narrows down about 0.4 miles through sweet boogie.

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The race course that Matt is talking about was the daily run. Super fun. With 500-600 cfs 1 in 5 gets spicy too.

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