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Old 06-04-2013   #11
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Have a plan B. Know where you are. Know when to float and when to swim like your life depends on it!

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Old 06-04-2013   #12
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Originally Posted by blutzski View Post
That's not a class IV Eddy. That's Mr. Bill. Probably the nastiest hole on the river after Rigor Mortis.
Mr Bill eats cub boaters for breakfast.

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Old 06-04-2013   #13
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Sorry I don't know the rapid as I not ready for the Nar. It just looked to me that when he rolled up the first time he was in an eddy that then recirced him back into the hole which makes more sense now that I know it is a stomping hole.
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Old 06-04-2013   #14
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That would qualify as a gnarly swim. The irony is if you drop the horizon line at the right spot at that level you can hit a flake that kicks you past the hole without even getting your skirt wet. Personally I'd rather deal with the Rigo holes than Mr. Bill. I agree it looked like maybe there was a skirt malfunction, but I've seen people pretty adept at pulling their skirts as well. I've seen some people do some impressive Olympic swimming to the right shore from that hole and that's definitely the way to go.

Personally I like the idea of leg protection and I bet those shin guards were worth their weight in gold for that swim. I guess if you don't ever plan to swim then why tie in any of your gear? Why buy float bags? You might as well strap yourself into your seat and buckle your skirt closed.
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Old 06-04-2013   #15
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Swimming in Class IV and above it is time to unlease your inner cheerleader. You need to Be Aggressive B E Agressive.

Life first and EQ second. That means "YOU" and your thought process. Exposure equals minus everything.
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I was thinking the same as others about aggressively swimming. It looked like the guy/girl had many chances to roll over and aggressively swim for the side. I was afraid he/she wasn't going to let go of the helper and drag them into something.

Glad the swimmer is ok.
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Old 06-05-2013   #17
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I think that is some of the best helmet cam footy I have seen. I am sick of the no perspective going through rapid action. Give me more swims with out of breath cussing at the end.
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Old 06-05-2013   #18
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that was very ugly hope its a wake up call!
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Old 06-05-2013   #19
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There's also something to be said for knowing where you are and having a plan. It seemed like he was swimming to river left in that whirling eddy at Mr. Bill, which is a one way ticket back into the hole.

But yeah, right after Mr. Hand was the big chance to bust ass to the right with everything he had. His boat was even waiting for him there. Glad it all worked out!
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You guys are brutal ... We have all swimmed and made mistakes while boating..
But I know this guy was back in his boat a couple days later trying to learn from mistakes..
Give the guy a FN break ....

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