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Old 07-27-2006   #1
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Some Questions on Roaring Fork runs/Colorado R

This weekend is CWWA's "Colorado Weekend" and my hope is to do something within my ability, challenging, and of course new.

I'm in my second year, reliable roll and solid head on my shoulders. Good brace. I'm in that stage where I'm making Class IIIs as hard on myself as I can to make move up to IV. I won't say I don't have a lot to learn still.

Anyhow, I'm looking at the CRC trying to figure out what runs I want to do, and a lot of the stuff on the Roaring Fork near Glenwood looks interesting, but I don't know the flows.

The flow meter shows Roaring Fork below Slaughterhouse in the red, until you get down to Cemetery, which is green.

Cemetery looks like it would be mostly Class II, so a bit dull for me. I still might run it.

But on Page 191 of the CRC2 is "Woody Creek/Toothache" - about 9 miles of Class III at flows from 500 to 2000. Flows everywhere BUT Cemetery show as below 500... But if Woody Creek/Toothache are just upstream of Cemetery, might they be high enough to run?

Assuming I can't run the Roaring Fork Class IIIs, what would you recommend I paddle on the Colorado?
I've done (and plan to do one day) Shoshone/Grizzly. The rest I'm looking for some ideas.

To give you an idea of what I consider a challenge, I do Parkdale well, Fractions respectably.

Thanks for any input.

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Old 07-27-2006   #2
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Numbers at this level would be a good one for you. Boats real easy.

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Old 07-27-2006   #3
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As would Browns. A little easier than the Numbers and a little harder than the Fractions.

Anybody know the minimum flows for Lower Fryingpan? I think Kara said they were bumping flows from around 120 to 220, maybe higher. But this still doesn't sound like enough. Thanks.

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I apologize that I wasn't more specific. This weekend, the group is going to be out near Glenwood Springs, so coming back the Arkansas is (I think, maybe I'm wrong) quite a distance back.
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well...the cemetary gauge says 1020...i didnt think that was correct, but 210 for crystal, 225 in the pan, and 300+ in the fork sounds about right, after you throw in snowmass crk and others. cemetary is fun, especially at a lower level, theres more rocks to watch out for. the aforementioned shoshone to gwood is fun, you could do a longer float on either of those by floating to noo kastle, you get two small rapids, including south canyon, and the canyon is pretty too....not much else in the area, i think the pan is too low, the lower crystal? (brb and crums run) might be too low, not sure. pumphouse and runs on the colorado between state bridge and dot-zero arent far, 20-40 mins. dowd chute? flowin, nothin else on eagle. crowd is dead on with the ark i think. only thing decently running. but just think, the fork would be running if the ark wasnt...
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Roaring fork is too low, and cemetary is class II. Shoshone is your best bet. Other stuff on the colorado like pumphouse is really nice scenery with hot springs etc, so it might not be challenging, but its still fun.


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