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Old 06-17-2008   #1
Bethesda, Maryland
Join Date: Jun 2008
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Some boat advice

Hello everyone!

I am a relatively new paddler (started summer '07) in the Potomac area. Working with some of the teaching companies here I have become (what I like to think of as) proficient on the river. I have run the both the rapids post-great falls and Little falls numerous times, albeit at low levels. I have also run the lower Yough a couple of times (at 2.1 and 2.79) and feel comfortable there. I know all my rolls, from back-deck to hand, and feel fine with my ferrys and other river moves. Recently I have started to get into freestyle, but I can really only establish a front surf and carve around on the wave (it doesn't help that the company I work with stocks boats with very little playability). I'm getting all my other gear, have an astral pfd, helmet is on the way, and a nice paddle. And now It's time to look for a boat.

A summary: I am pretty much a river runner with an interest in playboating, looking for a boat balanced for these two endeavors (heard this question before, have you?).

Any advice? I am 6', 160 lbs. I've been looking at the LL CR (which I haven't heard many good things about), Dagger RX or even Agent, Wavesport's fuse, and the ever-loved Jackson Fun. And of course I've been snooping around the gear-swap.

Thanks in advance.

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Old 06-17-2008   #2
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I paddle a super fun and absolutely love it, so I definitely recommend demo'ing one. I have also heard good things about the Fuse as well, but have not been in it. I can second what you heard about the CR - I have a buddy that is a solid paddler say he didnt care for the boat in no uncertain terms, but again have not been in it personally. Definitely demo them all if you can.

All the boats you mention are more on the play side of river running boats. If your focus is more on running the river than play might consider a Liquid Logic remix, or hero series from jackson. Might be what your already in though from the sounds of it.

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Old 06-17-2008   #3
Bethesda, Maryland
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I have tried the remix, and enjoyed it for what it could do, but always found myself wanting a shorter boat when surfing. Those two are definitely on the list though. Thanks for your input.
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Old 06-18-2008   #4
Bethesda, Maryland
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Wanting to support my local paddle shop, I have just realized that my choices are slightly more limited. Basically I can go to Valley Mill and get a Jackson, or go to Potomac Paddlesports and get a Wavesport. So my main choices now are the Jackson Fun, The WS EZG 50, or the WS Fuse 56 (which I was being pushed towards quite a bit).

Anyone have any opinions? I wanted to demo the Fluid Flirt but no one really carries them around here (or in my size if they do).

Are there any other good shops in the MD/DC area?
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Old 06-18-2008   #5
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The EZG's had cockpit rim cracks when they were first released. Might check to make sure that isnt an issue before buying.
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Old 06-22-2008   #6
Ashburn, Virginia
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I have a flirt to try and I live near by


I live in your neck of the woods, near Dulles Airport, and I have a Medium Flirt you can try, and if you like, purchase.

I purchased the boat during the early winter months of í07 and it served well in flat water (pool) playboating but for the real stuff itís been a chore for my 195 lbs frame. Iím now looking for a playboat with a bit more volume.

The boat was purchased new out of the wrapper. Has been in several pool sessions and about 10 park & plays at anglers. Itís equipped with extra large Jackson happy feet, (installed properly). I also have a pair of quality fins that you can fit the boat should you make your way to the ocean.

If you're still interested we can arrange a demo. Iím asking $400.

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