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Old 12-10-2012   #31
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Originally Posted by Caleb125 View Post
What they are doing is they start saying they want to use PayPal but later on say they want to use Western Union or Moneygram which are companies only used by scammers and drug dealers.
If someone wants to western union you some money, I say go for it. Western union is about like mailing cash. Once you send it, it is gone; once you pick it up, it is yours. What I am curious about is the sham payment that they want to send to you. It seems like if they sent a paypal payment to you and you wait for it to clear then they wouldn't be able to get their money back.

this kind of scam has caught many people off guard in the past, because these guys can make a counterfiet money order that looks good enough for the bank to take it. Banks are required by law to post your deposits to your account within a week or so of your deposit, so the money shows up in your account, you wire the "shipping" to the "shipping agent" and then a few weeks later your bank will come after you for the balance of the counterfeit money order.

I am just not sure how they can replace their counterfeit money orders with paypal payments and still make the scam work.

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Old 12-10-2012   #32
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Originally Posted by Flying_Spaghetti_Monster View Post
Usually their shipping agent is someone they know. I always wanted to wait on that guy in a parking lot with a few friends armed with baseball bats.
You would be waiting a long time. Actually there is no shipping agent. Remember, you can pick up a western union payment anywhere in the world. After you wire the money to the "shipping agent", some dude in Africa picks up the wire transfer and goes partying, while you wait in the parking lot for a make believe shipping agent who will never show up.

These guys don't give a damn about your kayak, car, or whatever you are selling. It is just a play to get you to wire a couple hundred dollars.

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Had a guy try this shit with a german luger I was selling. I was to give the money to his shipping broker. I bet that was someone he knew. Thought about solving that with an SKS in his face instead I got the cops involved.

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