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Old 06-14-2006   #11
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Silly Alex...


The "silly" reference in my subject was aimed more at the 19-year-old girl from Westminster who made the comment that ran in the News. I made no mention to the young man who died tubing and that is exactly why I started a new thread...

You're just reading into things here that aren't really there...

Kayaking Class V when you're trained and are using the proper safety gear doesn't seem "silly" but jumping into Class V water when you have no idea what you're doing and you don't have a helmet or PFD on would be considered "silly."

If you want to be "offended" by the post -- so be it. I could care less.

The fact remains the same... that girl's comment is about as uninformed as your posted reply is.

Sorry, just call em like I see em.

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Old 06-14-2006   #12
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I have saved my own life on several occasions in turbulent water by standing up and literally jumping out. I've seen other's self rescue by standing up and walking or jumping out. I would love to see someone try to "swim" to shore on something like the source. Acting on instinct is important because every situation is different. For example, woodall shoals on the Chattooga, a class VI hole, you could never swim out of that hole because it recirculates from 10 feet out. But, most people don't know that the water is only knee deep. You can literally stand up and walk out. We used to boggie board in this saame hole that people would die in probably because they took the advise of a newspaper and assumed the whitewater swim position. The whitewater swim position is useful for people on commercial rafting trips where they will have someone holding a rope or nearby to pull them out quickly.

Cheyenne....your heroics are unprecedented, keep up the good work!

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Well this thred has gone down hill fast.

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PS- It's never a good idea to try and stand-up in strong current. And, if we relied on pure instint no one would have ever learned to roll their kayak. Because, instint would tell us to lift our heads towards the sky and take a big breath.
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Old 06-14-2006   #14
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Please dont' take this personally... all I am saying is that it would be a good thing to choose a headline that is a little more sensitive when someone has died.
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Old 06-15-2006   #15
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I stand by "it is just Boulder Creek", and it is atypical for people to tube the section where the tuber died and I am not insensitive to that, as that is quite different from what the girl was describing. Moreover, the kayaker that died on the IIish has nothing to do with this, strainers would be a different discussion. Also, "strong current" is up for debate.

I agree it is a risk, just not one worth writing the editor and author over, especially when it was a quote. That is my point. You guys are just over-reacting to silly stuff, it is Boulder "play park" creek tubing. If you jump over to the other thread about tubers you won't see me argue against the point that tubers should wear pfds and helmets. Have fun educating the masses.

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