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Old 11-02-2010   #11
Wheat Ridge, Colorado
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Don't count on getting any beer/food at Phantom Ranch unless you are down to spend a ridiculous amount of money there.

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Old 11-02-2010   #12
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Your better bet is to hook up with some fat boat privates and play the sycophant yakker you really are and beg for them to take your trash. Be sure to not mention your post about keeping it real.

Good luck.

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Old 11-02-2010   #13
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Beer on self support?

Case of PBR? Stuffed in your boat? And a bottle of Beam? For how many days?

You may be able to snug another bottle in there, right up next to your jewels. Maybe even two if said jewels are in the November Boating mode.

Way to keep it real.
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Old 11-03-2010   #14
mountains, Colorado
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Originally Posted by cosurfgod View Post
-Really? Boulder? What mts do like live in? Enlighten us.
Sorry to hate. I just think it's ironic that you hate on the front rangers, yet you live in DGO. Quite simply, it ain't the place it used to be. I spent 10 wonderful years down there (pre wal-mart, home depot, etc.). It used to be a mountain town, now it's a suburb clone where folks go to live to be cool. That said, it is surrounded by amazingness and there are a handful of leftovers still out there gitting it done. Props on your trip. Have fun, be safe, I'm jealous.
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Old 11-03-2010   #15
portland, oregon
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did it in 10 days self support a couple years ago- great trip- took a T-Canyon and had plenty of space- even brought a pillow- find some old long boat and you will be way happier-

You also have to bring a fire pan and a groover- so you will need the space- we used PVC pipe with 1 screw on/off end and paper towels- it kinda sucks when you realize your boat is not going to get any lighter as you paddle downstream.

There are a couple springs near the start and we just pumped water or used drops- not big deal- we also brough a jet boil and had hot soup at lunch which was really nice on the long cold flat water days.

Take lots of high protein food and eat a lot-
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Old 11-03-2010   #16
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Check this out and go down until you find the file on Water Locations in the Canyon.

That info may help with planning on your water replenishment program, although as long as you have clear water, a filter ought to work just fine.


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Old 11-03-2010   #17
flagstaff, Arizona
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Shipping containers by mule(Duffel Service):

One can ship down containers to Phantom Ranch with a max size of 36"X20"X13" and no outside poles or shnedel hanging off. Max weight is 30 lbs. $64.64/package In, and $64.64 package Out. They will store at Phantom Ranch for up to 2 wks. There's a window for duffel service at the Bright Angel Lodge PH# 928 638-3283.
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Old 11-03-2010   #18
Buena Vista, Colorado
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Here's a few cool links:
Self Support Kayak Camping
Liquid Logic Seft Support Kayaking Site

Liquid Logic Remix XP10 review by Ted Keyes | Colorado Kayak Supply Blog
Ted Keyes write up TR on a Grand Canyon Self support trip with a great crew.
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Old 11-03-2010   #19
craig, Colorado
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It sounds like you have it covered by the responses, but I will throw in my 2 cents as well. If you know somebody lauching ahead of you they could bury something for you and get you the map...On some of my trips we have dropped off hikers who hiked back to there buried cashe...I saw a flash flood at 220 once uncover beer and pop from 8 years prior( the pop had a date on the cans). Doing this is of course against park rules...The best bet is the phantom drop off, $65 is will spend almost that on a steak meal...good luck and have a good one....
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Old 11-04-2010   #20
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Are legistics what you have to do to fit your legs around a case of PBR??

Do you think a case really weighs 20 lbs? I just searched and that seems to be what they are saying.

He will get about 19 lbs lighter if he starts with that much beer.

If it was me, it would get lighter pretty quick.

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