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Old 01-28-2010   #21
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Good thread. I know of a pin where a guy was pulled with a tag line from his boat out through his skirt. Lost his skirt, saved his boat. Had to hike out of a very tough gorge. Carry an extra skirt when on a remote run?

Also, if yer cutting a skirt, yer in very dangerous territory. Be *really* careful. Years back on the Ocoee someone was in a fairly heads up stable position but his rescuers, while cutting his skirt, cut his femoral artery and he bled out.

When we dress for boating, we "should" be dressing for an extended immersion while performing a rescue. I know I don't always do that...

Nice job getting it done for yer friend!


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Old 01-28-2010   #22
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Thanks for all the replies guys, a few common points. The bear claw seems like the good choice (I have one a used it during the rescue), sounds like there is no good answer to the gloves v poogies debate dexterity gained vs warmth (I do like Ian's idea of having spare gloves).
Thinking back I don't think that getting out of the skirt was possible here, as he wasn't touching the bottom (he would have had to go under water and get it over his head= very scary).
Good points about not cutting the victim, if you were to hit the femoral artery it would be game over real quick (that was why I was very hesitant to use the knife and once I did, I felt for him around the area and asked him if he could feel me touching him).
Be safe,

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Old 01-30-2010   #23
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Nice Job Tom. I personally hate wearing and paddling with people who wear gloves. Doing rope work, holding, clipping, feeling around, climbing ect are all hindered by gloves. Most people I see wearing gloves pull one or all off when shit goes down.

Rescues take time and 3/5 minutes in that kind of environment is nice work and thinking. Just be glad he could keep his head up and give you the time you needed to do your thing. Very nice job Tom.

One thing I might add that actually happened to me is tying his shoulders off to the log to help him stay above water. But use your judgement and make the call. Sounds like everything went as good as it could. Close call.

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I got pinned in the South Poudre on the outside of a bend where the current was pretty strong. A branch or root had poked through my skirt, but luckily there was a root on the bank that I grabbed to keep me stable. After trying as hard as I could, I could not get my skirt free. I then worked and struggled for 5 minutes and managed to wriggle out of my skirt and onto the bank. We ended up having to cut my skirt, which was underwater to get it out of the river and I hiked out.

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