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Old 06-15-2010   #1
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San Rafael Swell; Black Boxes @ minimum 6/15/10

Hey all,
Been watching this for years and here it goes (potentially).

*about CBRFC-they do not forcast very well for the swell due to dams but you can do the math based on Emery county inflows to Joe's Valley reservoir. Right now all it shows is minimum flow. I have read many posts here on the buzz saying this run is 70% flatwater with some difficult class 4 and a mandatory no swim. I have also read that it is brutal at even 500 cfs so I am holding off till that flow hopefully comes. This is our best chance since I have been watching (about 4 years now).


Emery Water Conservancy District: Teacup Diagram

any quick comments from those of you who have fired this up recently about wood or your experience and flow would be appreciated.

When this goes predictably at 500cfs I have a crew from Durango to go, let me know if you are available at the drop of the hat here and I will PM if this comes to fruition.

I've never boated before, but I have posted a lot on Mountain Buzz!
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Old 06-15-2010   #2
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Keep me posted, would love to make it happen this year.

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Old 06-15-2010   #3
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Sorry to hijack the thread, but is the Little Grand Canyon of the San Rafael good to go in a canoe?
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Old 06-16-2010   #4
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book says Little Grand Canyon is class II.
I've never boated before, but I have posted a lot on Mountain Buzz!
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Old 02-17-2011   #5
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What book?
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Old 02-17-2011   #6
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Whitewater of the Southern Rockies, be careful the authors are sandbaggers...
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Old 02-17-2011   #7
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Wood is not really an issue. Min is probably 400, but you really want 900 to be able to run the Rock Drop. Below 900 you can't run it and have to portage. So if you see it above 900 get there for sure. I have only seen Rock Drop at 1200 and it was chill but I have heard it gets nasty above 1500. Did the 1st Box at 450 2 yrs ago and it was still worth the trip. 2nd box is quality fun as high as you can get it and worth doing but bring some serious mind alterants for the float out to the Highway
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Old 02-17-2011   #8
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ha, craporadon said exactly what I was thinking regarding the float out. Beautiful scenery the whole way, but the gorgeous paddle out is better when enhanced with drug of choice. Decent camping in between gorges if you don't mind all the cow patties. I remember telling myself to bring lots of drinking water when I returned, the river water was very silty and filled with cow 'runoff'.
I think putting the non-paddling girlfriends/wives in duckies to run the LGC sounds fun; maybe continuing on through the black boxes while shuttle is run??
"Huck Finn?...more like huck-and-swim"
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Old 02-17-2011   #9
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Leave it to boaters to dig up a year old thread in anticipation. The title got me all excited!

When I looked two weeks ago, the snowpack for Utah looked like it was off to a great start. Could be a fantastic year for the Black Boxes.
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