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Old 03-15-2012   #51
Bellevue, Washington
Paddling Since: 1998
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Originally Posted by stubby View Post
What diameter prussik rope do you guys use for your prussiks? I seem to remember that the prussik has to be almost 1/2 the diameter of the line you're prussiking on in order to get the bite needed. With how small some the standard spectra throwbag you end up with a pretty small prussik cord.
I've been wondering the same thing. If you look at the NRS kayak unpin kit, they have 5mm prussiks for the 1/4 inch spectra throwrope in that kit. 1/4 inch is a little more than 6 mm. I wouldn't want 6mm pussiks for that small of a rope. Prussiks smaller in diameter than the main rope will grip better. Having a strong (breaking strength wise) prussik isn't worth much if it slips on the rope. I think that 5mm cord on a 1/4 inch rope sounds like a good compromise between prussik strength and grip on the rope.

Although the scientist in me wants to see data to back this up.

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Old 03-15-2012   #52
Raleigh, North Carolina
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Originally Posted by funkins
+1 for the Petzl e-Lite.
e-Lite is NOT waterproof - trust me. I used to carry one in my PFD. It lasted a few months before the water killed it. When it works, it is pretty handy though. Got caught on the water after dark and clipped it to the bill of my Strutter and was able to sneak my way down. I keep a Black Diamond headlamp in my drybag now.

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Old 03-15-2012   #53
Casper, Wyoming
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I carry a BD Spot in a small drybag behind my seat. I am torn between the Spot and the Petzl Tikka. I have both and I think both are exellent.
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Old 03-23-2012   #54
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Herndon, Virginia
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Whats the total weight?

How much does your safety gear weigh? Is it enough weight that it affects the size or model of boat you run?

I was just wondering... is it 5 lbs of gear or more like 20lbs?

Does this weight affect you ability to do over nights?


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Old 05-10-2012   #55
Athens, Georgia
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My thoughts on personal gear. 2 Points.


I am brand new to this board, and only have a year under my belt as a paddler, but I am not new to climbing, diving, canyoneering, and rope rescue. I am a professor and free-lance photographer.

There is lots of wisdom and experience here, but I have two points that may be helpful.

Point 1.

Polypropylene/ dyneema throw bag concern.

Last year while working on a photo gig, I was able to save a $400 paddle for a fellow by rappelling down a 15'-20' boulder to a small landing next to a eddie on the Chatooga river. There really was no way for him to get to it. I was rappelling with what I had- 3/8" dyneema/ polypropylene rescue line. No big deal, right? I went slow, even still, the friction melted through the polypropylene, leaving nothing but the spectra core, which can't hold a not. Under different circumstances, I could have been screwed! From now on, I carry the little Astral dyneema throw bag on my pfd, and I carry 80' of NFPA 3/8" grabline, nylon core, in my bottle holder. Not as strong, but I know I can knot the core if the sheath melts! If a prusik burns through polypropylene, a prusik can grab that nylon core too.

As you probably know, the little Astral bag isn't much good for throws from the bank- you run out of rope real quick.

Point 2.

As a cave/ wreck diver, I learned to carry 2 knives: a quick access blunt tip. I have had to cut away from line more than once. If line is wrapped around you, the best way is to saw away from you, tip towards you. I can saw out of an entrapment by repeatedly stabbing myself with a blunt tip! Sometimes you need to stab something (raft, BC bladder, etc...) that is why I carry a small locking folder in a pocket. Mine is a cheap Leatherman ($1, but I really want one of those Benchmade Griptilians.

I hope this adds to the discussion.

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