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Old 07-29-2009   #11
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This is what I was thinking... 23 in wide x 9'6"
Enevitably I would end up doing whitewater but nothing big. Class 3 max. Mostly just goofing around at the whitewater park.
My dimensions are 185 6'

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Old 07-29-2009   #12
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This is what I was thinking... 23 in wide x 9'6"
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Enevitably I would end up doing whitewater but nothing big. Class 3 max. Mostly just goofing around at the whitewater park.
My dimensions are 185 6'
Unless you are 80lbs, this will not work for Stand up Paddling. Traditional surf boards are not designed to be stable while standing still in the water. I have attempted to SUP on a 11 ft long board, and was barely able to balance on it in flat water. The only long boards I have seen people use successfully have been Tandem style long boards, which are the boards that people used to get the sport started.

Thickness is the key here, Sup boards are 1.5-3 times thicker than a traditional long board. This extra thickness with added width is what gives a SUP board the stability needed to paddle at low speeds.

Below are the specs on our C4 All Terrain Board.
C4 Waterman C MAC | Colorado Kayak Supply Blog

Length: 10'6"

Width: 29 1/2"

Thickness: 4 5/16"

Weight: 26 lbs.

Rounded Diamond Tail

Fin Array: 2 X 1 (7" center fin + Futures SB1 350 Side Bites)

If you are looking for good starter board, we also offer a Soft Top/ Foam Board that is a great value and great for getting into River SUP. All of our C4 dealers in the state rent these boards.

C4 Soft Top by Boardworks | 4 CORNERS RIVERSPORTS

Best of Luck to you and have fun, We had a great run down Shoshone today.

Ryan Guay
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Old 07-30-2009   #13
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I heard they're already starting the RBAA River Blading Association of America. Gonna be rad. I have taken 4 total newbies, 2 of which had never kayaked down Class 2-3 rapids (smaller than Shoshone) in the last week and everybody had the hang of it by the bottom. By their second round they are bomber. So I would relate that success much more closely to Rollerblading than surfing or skateboarding. It takes years to be able to do the basics in those sports, River Blading you are dialed pretty quick. Blading the river is definitley where it is at. I tried to Blade the lake for the 1st time the other day and it was only fun for 10 mins. Blading the river has been fun the whole time, every time.

It really is the perfect sport for this time of year, I definitely reccommend renting one of the C4 foamy tops ryguy spoke of and taking it down Grizzly or the Upper C, you'll be hooked. Plus you can take the girlfriend and not cause trama like kayaking does.

RBAA Needs a slogan, how about one of these:
Blade the Froth!
River Bladers Slash the Crash!
Drop the Blizade on the Rivade!
Forblizzle the Frizzle!
River Bladers take Deep Strokes!

And the current favorite:
Blade Nasty!
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Old 07-30-2009   #14
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Some people call it a sling Blade, I call it a River Blade....
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Old 07-30-2009   #15
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Rollerblading? That is a real slap in the face for SUP.

What's the toughest part of rollerblading??? Telling your Dad you're gay.

Seriously I would drop all refferences to rollerblading if you want people to take you for real.

I had a blast SUP in Mexico while I was there. I don't get in my kayak nearly enough any more to consider a new sport, but SUP would be fun if you had tons of free time or you were bored with kayaking and rafting.
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Old 07-30-2009   #16
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OK Don, remeber when Neon went from cool to not cool? Well neon is cool as hell right now, just check out or

Blading just did the same thing, it's cool as hell again. Your Dad I'm gay joke was funny in 1999 when Rollerblading was becoming uncool. Well it's 2009 and it's time to Blade Nasty!

The one thing that's for sure is that I hav'nt been fired up to kayak Class II for 6 days straight since I was first learning. I've been Blading Nasty on Class II now for 5 days straight and I'm about to go Drop the Blizade on the Rivade for the 6th straight night.

Sometimes in life you gotta step up and take a big bite, you never know, it might be Bladalicious!
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Old 07-30-2009   #17
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How about tag lines like cat boaters use? Something to grab once you fall, but webbing that has less change to get caught in anything (unlike rope).

What about this as a starter board?

We have a "M", it's like a floating sidewalk! Might have to get a paddle, and play with it as a SUP when we get skunked windsurfing.
I am a river, babe - I've got plenty of time, I don't know where I'm going, I'm just following the lines..... - "We are water" by Shaye
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Old 07-30-2009   #18
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Roller Blading

Crapor, don't chase a trend like rollerblading. Get ahead of the curve. You should compare SUP to using a Razor Scooter. Wouldn't that be the next trend to come back around? You should start the RSSUPAA. It will help you on your pursuit to sell more stickers and T-Shirts.

I thought Quicksilver was dead? They didn't show at either at the Surf Expo or OR this year and I heard they were really hurting. PS: Neon is so this year. We stopped pre selling it a year ago. Going into 2010 and 2011 neon is out. Poor sell through at retail. Sorry dude. I work in the clothing industry hate to break it to you. It's a trend color that has no staying power. Kind of like Viagra. You know?
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Old 07-31-2009   #19
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Shape of things to come

So Hobie, lets talk more about what your doing with Surftech and the Shape of things to come. I saw at OR that surftech has an inflatable SUP coming out. It looked good, what are the differences between the Surftech one and an Uli? Also, I am hoping that you are going to help out on designing a River SUP, if so a few things I have been thinking about are softer rails because we areot making any big bottom turns and the hard rails on most SUP boards tend to be grabby coming in and out of eddys an in swirly water, so why not round them out some? Also a shorter board seems like a good direction to go, shorter, and wider. I have been wanting to try the Whopper from Star-board, 10'x34". It seems to me you would be gaining both manuverability and stability.
Right now in WW SUP I see a lot of swimming in anything class III and above by new paddlers, why not get a board that gets beginners comfortable? Remember when the X boatcame out? All of a sudden everyone and their brother could cartwheel, spin, ect... The Boom Days of kayaking are behind us but the SUP is on fire and only going to get bigger.
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Email me your number and I will give you a call. But yes, that is the primary idea with a lot more options that will transcend whitewater and make it super versatile for other types of outings. Many things that will make the new board excel in running whitewater will be a hit in other markets. Stability, durability, versatility and affordability. We have some very unique ideas going into this board. Hearing more from other paddlers is always welcomed. With such a new sport it is awesome to get the input from other boarders that also understand river running. Great to hear such an iconic Colorado paddle shop is on board with pushing it further!


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