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Old 03-30-2009   #1
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Restop Commode

Cascade Outfitters sells a Restop Commode for $50. Screw on top, seat, uses waste bags. Has anyone used one before? For a 2-3 night trip is this o.k., or is it a mess waiting to happen? Any advice on groovers appreciated.

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Old 03-31-2009   #2
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Not sure what you can get away with when you're actually at the put-in, but the NPS regs in Dino specifically prohibit bag systems, and the BLM regs specify a washable reusable system. I think they want there to be no chance of any of us chucking any of our poo in their dumpsters. They cost a lot, but either the Johnny Partner or the Eco-Safe seem to be the best value if you plan to do multi-day trips on the Plateau. I use Johnny Partners (or the pastic equivilent the "bano") commercially and the Eco-Safe privately and have had no problems with either.
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Old 03-31-2009   #3
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Gotta agree with asleep on this one. While the bag systems are cheap, you're limited as to where you can use 'em. Spending the dough on the Eco-Safe or equivalent is a much better investment, but you ain't left holding the bag at the put-in when the ranger says "no".
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It's What The Ranger Likes!

Ultimately, it's what the ranger at the put-in likes and does not matter if you or I like it!

Years back, I saw a ranger deny a buddy river access, because the ranger had never seen my buddies new state of the art $300 crapper (non-bag system). The ranger never budged on the grounds that he was unfamiliar with the new system, even after proving it did not leak filled full of water. This denied crapper is now one of the preferred choices by this very same river and park service.

First, you need to go through the pain in the ass hassle of researching all of the rivers in the near and far future you'll float and see what they allow and don't allow. You'll probably find that you're only left with a couple choices.

I've thought about creating a spread sheet sometime of all the groovers, bags, and can options and having all of the rivers that are Groover Patrolled checked off per what is allowed.
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