Originally Posted by boatmusher
I also have used Ceiba. Loved them! Once, unfortunately the TL would jump around on the different meals and eat what "tasted good" that night. Unfortunately, packing and planning on Ceibas part doesn't really allow one to jump around like that w/out it turning into a cluster f!@# by the end. Ceiba is cool b/c if you follow their plan you only have to take 2 maybe 3 cans off for dinner. Very organized as long as the group stays to plan.
As yakrafter stated there is a lot of prep w/ Ceiba. Too much time cooking and cleaning not enough time relaxing. Next time I hope on the group doing the food as a group in some manner. Easier that way as long as there is organization. Especially when you get on the river! No matter how much planning goes into the trip prior to leaving w/out the proper organization on the river it all goes to shit!
It is funny! Certain groups I have found don't understand group dynamics. Such as putting personal gear/agenda ahead of group gear/agenda. With a strong core of solid boaters that have been on overnights before problems stated above should and could be easily avoided. The problems that arise on the Grand I personally have found
can be avoided and adjusted with a little bit of communication and leadership skills. Needless to say, group dynamics make or break a trip.
Sounds like you have been down again man, we only jumped planned meals due to the desire of those in the group that were cooking to do more or less prep...or if we were low on water and had a pasta meal or something like that.
In terms of the multi daily can decent. The issue there was the desire to try and use the leftover food. Thus bring out old day cans that were still packed with eatables. In retrospect we should have just let those cans stay on the boats full of food if not eaten.
Hopefully the personal pack will take care of the food excess issue, but we will see.
I also really think coolers should be time sequencial not based on content catagories (dairy, meat, lunch, etc) that has you opening coolers all the time over and over.
communication, leadership, group dynamics are all critical, but as you know. Sometimes one event over the course of a few minutes can change the rest of the trip. folks have to want to be lead as well or at least cooperate.