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Old 04-09-2012   #11
Join Date: Feb 2007
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Hey Jko..

I definitely did not mean to imply that you were speaking for AW. I just think it is foolish to raise the eyebrows of potential buyers unnecessarily (here's hoping they don't find this site...).

As for Tack Van Cleve vs. the new owners and naivety...

Tack and family were born and raised MT and have hiked, horsed and screwed around every square inch of that place long before it was valued at 9M. It was a working ranch. The trail access, campground and easement, if I understand it correctly, are non-negotiable with the USFS and there would definitely be an ugly scene if that high-traffic access to the Crazys (for many user groups) was messed with by a moneyed non-local. A local would not even consider it, so no issues there. What I am driving at, is that there are many checker-boarded ownership areas within the Crazys (USFS/Private) that make it a little complicated and the real areas of concern (Pinch, Gambler, handful of other drops) are difficult to spot without bushwhacking. The new owners would likely not understand the need for scouting/portaging, as once they realized that people are plopping the falls regularly, the rest should be a piece of cake. They could not shut down access to kayakers using the trail and accessing the creek from the FS bridges until they could demonstrate to the FS personnel that a descent of the creek is not really possible without trespassing. This would require a great deal of effort and there is really no call for it without kayakers f+++ing it up for themselves by acting foolish in someones backyard. I hope this makes you more optimistic. If it starts going to hell, you can rest assured that the local creeking community will be on the stick to make it all work out smoothly somehow. We simply will not lose Big T.

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