and there are plenty of girls
You just have to know which ones are in Mike's family.
you are a punk luke, i will put up as gatocsu would like to see. just bought a new camera with 33mm by 369 lens so good shots should be coming see later ladies.
luke stay away from my sister not like you really had a chance in the first place.
I'd just like to chime in and add that I boated with Mike at the whitewater park in Casper (I know, nothing else was running, it was March)... and he's not really the asshole in person that he is online... its like the kid transforms into super badass MF when on the interweb. Mike, do you even think about some of the shit you post? You have no reason to be talking smack and bashing folks. You keep saying 'you don't know me' in your defense, but then you online bitch-slap people you've never met. As a creeker whos from Wyo-- I'm gonna have to say, 'Shut the F*&k up'
you are a punk luke, i will put up as gatocsu would like to see. just bought a new camera with 33mm by 369 lens so good shots should be coming see later ladies.
luke stay away from my sister not like you really had a chance in the first place.
I don't care what drops you are running. Do you not understand this? There are so many good class 5 creekers that I have met, over the last 10 years of creek boating, that would never say the dumb shit that you're saying on here.
What I want you to do, since you are obviously aiming to please the critics, is find a post where someone called Box Elder a class 4 run.
Are you trying to prove anything other than the fact that you forgot to log in your "alter ego" account before you began this horrible attempt at flaming?
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has the poudre come up anymore this week? you guys getting snow this week?
jessie why don't you come and join me this weekend boxelder should be running nice.....
sorry just had to throw that out there for you guys.
You have dug yourself a giant grave and you have done a good job of burying yourself. I was going to stay out of your little battle but, especially after you’re private message to me, which I will not get into in this forum and now your private message to Skibum calling out the group that was in the box when Dan died.
First off I boated with you, so this is first hand experience. You’re a good boater but you lack the skills of a good class 5 boater. When we came to the first class 3 boulder garden you were a jack in the box. If you can’t eddy scout, your in big trouble no matter what class of whitewater you are on and this was the first lesson I learned from one of Wyoming’s finest paddlers, Ed Conning. You don’t know how to move well or efficiently and this is something you need to work on.
Yes, I moved ahead of the group when I broke my boat, so that I wouldn’t hold the group back. I figured me hiking the banks in flatwater and getting in my broken boat in class 2 that you would catch up to me (one would think right?) When any part of the run got to eddy scouting who was in front? When I hiked out I missed about a half mile of water and 2 drops per your trip report right? One of which looks completely boatable.
I’m standing at the top of a horizon line and I just roped you across the creek to scout the drop.
Me: Mike is it good to go?
Mike: Yea, it’s the 20 foot slide I scouted
Me: Are you 100% sure its good?
Mike: Yea its good
Me: Ok let’s do it
I believe you and I made the decision to move forward.
Is this me pushing the group to far? Or running something I shouldn’t?
I went off your verbals and that was good enough for me.
Did I swim? Hell yeah I did, I’m not denying it, I was upside down, didn’t know where I was and just ran a drop that was completely the opposite of what was described. I knew I was in a bad spot and was pinned up against the wall. I have NO excuses for you. It happened and yes I was glad to have someone there to help me out. Don’t say I ran the wrong line you were in the same place I was! Box Elder is not 5+ and honestly it’s easy class 5.
I have boated with many and if someone on this forum thinks I’m dangerous then please speak now.
You need to respect what others have done before you, and next time ask the guy who ran the drop first what he thinks the name should be. Also didn’t the landowner on Box Elder creek tell you he had seen kayakers in the canyon before you?
Don’t questions my abilities or my skills, they speak for themselves as my good friend once said
“Google my name Bitch”
To the rest of the crew that was there, Luke and Pat I think you guys are great and I have nothing against you, and would paddle with you again, Mike just needs settle down and realize his own actions have consequences. Mike, it’s too small of a state to loose boating partners in. The Big Horns are full of class 5+ what runs have you hit their?
But seriously Mike I believe everyone deserves a second chance but don’t call me out like you have.
You have dug yourself a giant grave and you have done a good job of burying yourself. I was going to stay out of your little battle but, especially after you’re private message to me, which I will not get into in this forum and now your private message to Skibum calling out the group that was in the box when Dan died.
First off I boated with you, so this is first hand experience. You’re a good boater but you lack the skills of a good class 5 boater. When we came to the first class 3 boulder garden you were a jack in the box. If you can’t eddy scout, your in big trouble no matter what class of whitewater you are on and this was the first lesson I learned from one of Wyoming’s finest paddlers, Ed Conning. You don’t know how to move well or efficiently and this is something you need to work on.
Yes, I moved ahead of the group when I broke my boat, so that I wouldn’t hold the group back. I figured me hiking the banks in flatwater and getting in my broken boat in class 2 that you would catch up to me (one would think right?) When any part of the run got to eddy scouting who was in front? When I hiked out I missed about a half mile of water and 2 drops per your trip report right? One of which looks completely boatable.
I’m standing at the top of a horizon line and I just roped you across the creek to scout the drop.
Me: Mike is it good to go?
Mike: Yea, it’s the 20 foot slide I scouted
Me: Are you 100% sure its good?
Mike: Yea its good
Me: Ok let’s do it
I believe you and I made the decision to move forward.
Is this me pushing the group to far? Or running something I shouldn’t?
I went off your verbals and that was good enough for me.
Did I swim? Hell yeah I did, I’m not denying it, I was upside down, didn’t know where I was and just ran a drop that was completely the opposite of what was described. I knew I was in a bad spot and was pinned up against the wall. I have NO excuses for you. It happened and yes I was glad to have someone there to help me out. Don’t say I ran the wrong line you were in the same place I was! Box Elder is not 5+ and honestly it’s easy class 5.
I have boated with many and if someone on this forum thinks I’m dangerous then please speak now.
You need to respect what others have done before you, and next time ask the guy who ran the drop first what he thinks the name should be. Also didn’t the landowner on Box Elder creek tell you he had seen kayakers in the canyon before you?
Don’t questions my abilities or my skills, they speak for themselves as my good friend once said
“Google my name Bitch”
To the rest of the crew that was there, Luke and Pat I think you guys are great and I have nothing against you, and would paddle with you again, Mike just needs settle down and realize his own actions have consequences. Mike, it’s too small of a state to loose boating partners in. The Big Horns are full of class 5+ what runs have you hit their?
But seriously Mike I believe everyone deserves a second chance but don’t call me out like you have.
great line on the beaver to and a swim doesn't count as running a drop it counts as a swim. and if you followed through left left you would have been good aaron. don't call me out brother i boat for the safety of my crew as in knowing there limits as well as mine.
the one drop had a shitty entrance into a poor over directly onto the rock i guess if you made it to that far you could've seen what we were seeing. we scouted this drops 2weeks ago and last weekendand portageged both times. dungball electric slide, portage and a couple more good hits. you missed it all so don't call it full report next time aaron peace. remeber you were invited along we didn't invite you to lead.
you don't even see the lines you just go thats the problem here. theres more to kayaking than just kayaking aaron and the whole reason i brought up the box was to prove a point that when you r in a box canyon you shouldn't be pushing ahead making time or anything especially when you don't know it. i knew there was an exit after that corner where you swam. i knew ...... you didn't thats the plain and simple point, people can die if you aren't paying attention
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