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Old 07-08-2006   #1
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Pine Tree Falls is FUBAR

Pine Tree in the Crystal Gorge is toast for all with a lust for living (personal opinion of course). There is a chunk of a 16-18 inch wide pine is sticking about 8 feet out of the water completely vertical with a couple other logs at its base. I have no idea how it is pulling off the feat. Pretty impressive. It is dead center at the bottom of the second tier with a few branches attached. There is also a new log just off the wall on the left just above the Pine Tree eddy. Another spanning the lip of the drop below the falls with branches. Not a great portage especially in the rain. Remember there is that nasty one at the bottom of Thread The Needle.
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Old 07-10-2006   #2
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YO G

Is it worth a trip up there this year? Any chance of movin any of that wood?
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Old 07-10-2006   #3
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Maybe as flows come down you could see what was going on. With 450+ on avalanche the log was not even wavering. Standin' strong. With a lower flow I think you could have hopes of a perfect line through the corkscrew drop above it, get center and then back left to grab that last eddy. The line up against the left wall above the boulder that makes grabbing that eddy easy is blocked by another new log. Even if you slide down the rock on the left of Pine the water that normally flows straight out of there off of the next drop is not doing the same thing. At least at those flows it was going a little more center towards the branch laiden log across the lip of the next one. Maybe more managable at lower flows in the way of catching the upper eddy and making the move in the pool at the bottom. You may also get to it and say f*$# it, lets give er, she just looks ugly. Maybe if some of the branches break off her then you could try to rail down either side of it. As for removal, may be a bit easier to give it a shot if the rain stops long enough to dry the rocks and bank up. Made for a crappy portage. You can put in just below the intake for the mine shaft and still run the waterfall and the exit drop. Both were clean as of Saturday. As for worth it, ???? Your call on that one Big J. Maybe you should just go roost instead. You know thats what you want to hear anyway. Or you can come down here. Vallecito was alot of fun yesterday and its supposed to keep rainin'. I told you I would also take you "elsewhere" if you want to go in. Give me a call if you can walk away from your bike for a couple of days.
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How did the wood situation look in the Inner gorge? Looks like flows are dropping down to a good level for the best part of the run.
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Little frustrated so we did not look at the stuff right above Millers (i.e. the crux) but everything above including Zoot looked good. Even looked runnable at 450 but it usually does till you get down lower. With lower water you may be able to make a move on the Pine Tree log or at least catch the eddy up top. If a couple of branches fall off you could probably rail down one side or the other.
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Is it worth the portages for the inner?
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The inner is worth a lot... I would assume the run would be worth it even with the big portage.
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