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Old 03-18-2007   #1
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Piedra is clean

No hazards on the piedra it is good to go.

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Old 03-19-2007   #2
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I have run the upper section (2nd Box) and I would like to run the lower section, but not sure how much harder it is from the upper secition. I thought I read that the class V rapid (mudslide?) has changed and is now a IV? Can the lower section rapids be scouted and portaged, if necessary?

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Old 03-19-2007   #3
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The Eye Collapsed

The class V you are referring to is called Eye Of The Needle or Second Mudslide. There is no more needle eye to thread. The rock that made the drop difficult has shifted pretty far down stream and is now an easier class IV drop. There are a few rapids that are a bit harder than the first gorge but not by much. If the long rapid in the first section is easy for you then you should be fine below. Have fun.
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Old 03-19-2007   #4
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Yes, both mudslide rapids can be scouted and portaged. The rock in 2nd Mud got pushed farther downstream, but I would still take a look at it.
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Old 03-19-2007   #5
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Right after Eye of the Needle is a runnout rapid (Lucifer's) that I've seen a lot of carnage in- be mindful that there are very chunky pourovers along the right channel that could swim a complacent boater into many, many rocks. The clean line / sneak is in the right channel, up against the right side of the rock island (left of center in the right channel). Once past the island, it's read-and-run center.

There's a better write-up than on / Eddyflower (no offense, Paul) found here:

One thing to add- keep an eye out for the Hot Springs on your left before the pack bridge- it's a nice stop to warm your feet.
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Old 03-19-2007   #6
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I like Dana's page the best at: WA :: Piedra River

Do people run the left channel of Lucifer's?

The right side of the right channel had strainers, too, last August.

For Al's benefit, it would be near impossible to run the Eye dry in an OC1, but at lower flows there is a pool before Luciferís.

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