I am deeply dissapointed with the Mountainbuzz community. Somebody without enough to do alerted the rangers at Deso-Gray who called me "to make sure I was NOT planning a nudist trip through the canyon." They worried about the impact on commercial and outward bound style trips moving through the canyon. My girlfriend and I are deeply dissapointed by this development. There were a good number of interested parties, but I'm afraid to say that this epic journey into the very depths of the American soul has been temporarily put on hold while I either let things subside for a while or while I scout out an alternate location. If you are intersted in the general concept of nude boating, please message me and I'll privately alert you to any further developments.
Whoever decided to spill the beans to the pigs, remember, I am Ahab, do not fuck with me.
Or put another way, don't you suppose BLM has computers that can get on the internet, and that it's just possible they watch all the major boating lists and boards for interesting posts?
Hey George,
A lot of rangers and official types lurk on this forum..........buzzards.........every one of them.
I'd suggest a non permitted section like Upper Colorado, Ruby/Horsethief.......maybe Laberyath(sp?) canyon below Green River........maybe the Gunnison?
Come to think of it.........you'd be better off in any state but Utah for your type of float.
I would agree, that there are probably some other options out there. Deso, for many, is an entry level, first time, expedition style trip. some trips that I have overtaken, or been over taken by, have involved church groups, boyscout groups, girlscout etc.....while it my be natural to be necked, others may see it different that you. while you may have the will to express yourself, others have the rite, to not be so dispossed.
I say keep it on "your" beach, for what its worth......
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A lot of rangers and official types lurk on this forum
There was a thread last year by someone complaining about getting busted for smoking dope at a campground on the Dolores and then talking trash about the rangers that busted him. His posts were all used in court against him.
The old saying "never write anything down that you wouldn't want to see in the newspaper" is more relevant than ever in the internet age.
Like OB says, its a popular family run where parents may be offended by having their kids exposed to a couple of heavy-drinking nudists.
A little discretion, like slipping a sarong on when overtaking another group, usually does it for folks I know and sure seems a lot easier than being a militant nudist and fighting your citation in court.
Also remember that Utah liquor laws apply within the "Behave" state and can be enforced by the ranger at Sand Wash.
-AH
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Having thought about this for the last two hours, I realized that this is not an isolated incident, it is a symptom and a sign of the decline of the American wilderness and the American pioneer ethic. Our country was founded by non-conformists. While the sight itself might offend certain unthinking individuals, no, true American would deny that nudist rafting epitomizes the American experience. This is especially the case in a time when patriotism is at an all time low, when our nation is bankrupt, wounded by war, and addicted to anti-depressants. Please message me if you are interested in participating in a nude boating experience or support what I am trying to do.
wilderness ethics 101...........when coming in to an epic medow, that you and your fellow travelers feel has never had the stare of a gaze from such bewildered travelers, should such an asshole set up his mountain hardwear galaxy in said such view. just ruins the whole damn experience dosn't it?
you may think your a pioneer/whatever..but your views are different from the majority........
just go to your camp of choice, skin em off, and be happy about it......if you really wanna make a stand, invite all your permit folks to luby's on a tuesday afternoon about 4.
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Gentlemen,
First of all, both Grant and Churchill were barely functional alcoholics, but we worship them as heroes. Ted Kennedy is a barely functional alcoholic. Heavy drinking though we are, we are just as committed to a good natured, democratic society as any other decent, ordinary citizen.
Second, Edward Abbey once wrote the following:
We can have wilderness without freedom; we can have wilderness without human life at all, but we cannot have freedom without wilderness.
Wilderness cannot exist where one is not allowed to exist in the natural state. Therefore freedom cannot exist where one is not allowed to exist in the natural state. I'd like to ask all of you to write the BLM requesting that they allow me to launch. Our freedom is at stake.
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