Pine creek not a V? Numbers a III? Is this being driven by ignorance of an actual run off in recent years, or arrogancy?
The first time I ran the gorge we were led by a guy who took great pride in putting us on line to hit this hole directly. It took me a few cartwheels and side surfs to escape, but I did. 1.5 at high water has a hole thats worse, but it is still a three. I've seen that hole cartwheel a guy in a lazer for five minutes like he was a toy. If the hole can be easily missed, it's a three. If you screw up and hit the hole, it doesn't make the rapid harder for everyone else who can hit the line.
I saw the stunt junkies a while back where berman ran a falls in Mexico. Pretty thin water with major consequences. He stomped it and made it look easy. By this new pine creek standard, it probably was a -IV, III+.