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Old 06-29-2005   #11
Boise, Idaho
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Cascade Res is 96% full. This is where the water comes from. The farmers down stream dictate everything. Since I've been here we've seen flows at 1700-2300 through mid August. Then they start to back off. 1500 or so in Sept. Then they finally cut us off after the second week of October. I say you can count on great flows all summer. Come in late July or Aug and, if its been hot, the water will be in the high 70's. Bring your surf shorts and shorty.

Johnny, your right, there is a hugh difference between 1200 and 2000's. 1200 is when things start to clean up. But there is still a lot of green in there. Lots of eddy hoppin'. The name sounds familiar...

Milo, your right about Golf Course. THere are at least 18 holes in there that will cause a swim. That doesn't count the back nine! Great post...I think I cought a ride with that same dude last week.

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Old 06-29-2005   #12
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A little carnage story from the weekend...

Greg Wrote:
I spent a three day weekend running the North Fork Payette. I didn't
get in my playboat the whole weekend. I'm gradually working my way up
that river. Aside from two or three rapids that are a clear step above
the rest, the whole 17 miles of class V are within my grasp. However,
I continue to hear horror stories, and they make me wonder why I
aspire to paddle this kind of shit. On Sunday, I put on the upper five
miles of the river with a group of about 10 really, really good
boaters. The river is informally divided into a lower (easiest) upper
(harder) and middle (hardest) sections, I decided to take out after
the upper, although I ran the bottom half of the middle the day
before. One of my good friends who was in that group got stuck in a
hole somewhere in the middle, and, since he was out of sight getting
surfed, another boater came steaming in for a boof and hit the surfer
square in the face and broke his nose. Then there were two boaters
stuck in the hole. My buddy with the broken nose eventually popped his
skirt, and the North Fork is not a river you want to be swimming under
any circumstances. Fortunately, the group was really strong, and they
got him out quickly and pulled his boat to shore some miles
downstream. Scary stuff. It could happen to anyone at any time on a
tough river like that.

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Old 06-29-2005   #13
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not sure i'd call the bottom 5 class V . . . more like big class IV below 4000 cfs
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Old 06-29-2005   #14
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Hey Caspian - come on out and get on it! (Or, if it's high water, at least get on the lower 5 with me ... so far I've only been on the upper section at Low water! Jake's (dam the whole middle) is big! IDSurfer is about the best guy you could paddle that river with (or send your buddy to paddle it with), he's got a fetish for the NF.
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Old 06-29-2005   #15
loveland, Colorado
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Did the Canyon or Staircase run this year? You folks need a pounding come this winter. Is there enough water in Deadwood Resevoir for the annual release in September?
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Old 06-30-2005   #16
Boise, Idaho
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The Canyon and staircase are currently running. This is a low water year and the SF still ran 8000 for a week. We had a lot of rain. It was huge and a total blast. The SF is around 1300 or so right now. This is a good little level for class III-IV playboat stuff. They are running commercial trips down it. The Deadwood is 94% full. I would say we will see flows out of that. This will keep the SF going.

Your right we could use some more snow this winter than last. Things did go pretty big this year, they just didn't last that long. All the Res.'s are full. That's cool. Guess we'll just be hole bashing on the NF for the next 3.5 months! Come on up....
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Hey Claire! I hadn't thought about going up there, but my friend Mark says Idaho has loads of surf waves, so combined with the creeks...I might get talked into it. Don't know about the NFP, though -- maybe it's not as bad as I've been led to believe, but I'll have to see it before I decide. Check your PMs - I'm gonna send you Mark's #. Are you going WV this fall?


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