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Old 12-29-2007   #1
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New Rockers? jefe Grande?

Does anyone (Marty?) know if Jackson is tweaking the Rocker series again for 2008? What about the 2007, was it a big improvement over the original or inconsequential?

While I'm on the subject, has anyone paddled the Jefe Grande?

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Old 12-29-2007   #2
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Mike, the change from the initial Rocker to the 2007 was huge. Completely different volume distribution, more rocker, better outfitting. All around it's a fantastic creeker. Word is that the 2008 will have an outfitting redesign. I'm not sure what they're changing, but I loved the 2007 outfitting. I had a bad pin in the curtain of a falls in Ecuador a couple weeks ago. The rock was directly under my Boat Armor seat and it held strong even though I got nervous. Check it out.
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Old 12-29-2007   #3
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What up G! Just got back from a fantastic trip to the south island of NZ. My god, that place is pure bizness!

The 08 Rocker line is going to have 2 upgrades... The first being an injection molded foot system as opposed to the aluminum we have now. Should save about 2lbs. Also we have added a tray if you will for our composite beam that runs the length of the boat. That will assist in distributing the load when boofing and although it was just fine in 07, this will make the hulls even stiffer.

The Grande is comfy to sit in but I haven't paddled it. The Rocker and Jefe are two completely different boats by quite a margin. Rocker is fully displaced, Jefe not as much.

I have a 07 Rocker and Mega to try if you are interested, just let me know.... martyatjacksonkayakdotcom
"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body. But rather...To skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming... WOW !!!! What a ride!!!!!!"
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Old 12-29-2007   #4
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Mike, I paddled the grande on gore towards the end of the season i think right around 1000cfs and it was sick. The plastic seemed a bit soft but overall it was sweet, boofed on command, never resurfaced cause it never got buried, and super easy to keep on line. I usually paddle a gus for reference, I liked the speed of the grande it seems to have all the good things the gus has and none of the bad, maybe the plastic might have issues but we will see.
joe and marty, glad to hear you guys had epic trips, keck heard you ran into dos metros in ecuador hope it was an epic journey.

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Old 12-30-2007   #5
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i paddled the grande on gore at about 1500 cfs, the thing is sick!!! i weigh about 155-160 and the boat paddles great, boofs perfectly, fast and easy to maneuver, it is an awesome boat.
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Ohhhhh, can we all stroke our sponsors one more time just for good measure.
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Old 12-30-2007   #7
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I paddled the Rando earlier this year and it paddled like my grandpa's rowboat. I kept getting stuck in holes, couldn't eddy in or out, and the thing was less predictable than a one legged man in an ass kicking contest. Once I got back into my RPM I was rippin' once again. My advice? Don't paddle a Rando.
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It sure does love those holes! Especially those ones that beat your ass and make you swim a lot. But I am sure you know all about that!

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