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Old 02-19-2006   #1
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New Creeker Time :-)

Just got my taxes done so its finally time to replace my old Huck. I am 5 feet 11 inches tall and about 155 lbs. Would like to try out a Magnum. (gonna borrow a pals Jefe) Also interested in the Salto. Would appreciate opinions and/or suggestions as I am poor and will more than likely keep my new creeker 2 to 3 seasons if it will last that long. Mostly boat in Cali,Thanks in advance.

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Old 02-19-2006   #2
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Looks like a few good boats to try. I think you'll find your boat within those three crafts. Good way to go about it too. Try before you buy


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Old 02-19-2006   #3
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are any colorado shops are going to have the new Salto?
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Old 02-19-2006   #4
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try the Mafia. It's great for your size. review here

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Old 02-19-2006   #5
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I think eskimo is trying to get some shops in CO soon. Untill then feel free to give me a call and I can get you a new boat..

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Old 02-20-2006   #6
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The boats you describe are all about the same. The main differenct between the Jefe and the Magnum is chine. The Magnum will do better ferrying accross really pushy water since there is a hard chine that goes from hip to tail. The Jefe is the absolute easiest boat to paddle down manky knar ever (once you playboaters realize that displacement hulls are for boys and girls that fire it up), but does not react quite as well in the pushy stuff. The Jefe surfaces (or never gets the top of the bow wet) so damn well. Both puch holes surprisingly well. The Jefe's lack of chine on the bottom helps it slide off of the mankyest crap with precision and smoothly. An edge in that situation can hold you up on a lip of a drop and deliver you upsidedown, slowly or sideways down a steep drop. The gus has those raised chines so it will track when leaned on its side but usually will not catch those edges. The salto is freaking classic, tracks pretty well, lots of rocker in the very tip of the nose. I liked it when I paddled it. I have seen good boaters at your weight stand up on the tail a whole lot though. Rocker in the stern is a new concept to creek boats. The Jefe has it.

My two cents, check out that Hercules too. I would consider the Stretch and M3 from Pyrhana as well.
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The new Salto has more volume than the old model. I think it's 72 vs. the old model's 66 gallons. This may help with the stern squirting issue you spoke of.

Also, the Burn is probably the boat the OP might want to check out from Pyranha. The Stretch is more of a river runner. The Burn is taking the place of the H3 and probably the M3.

I paddle an H3 245 right now and love it. I'm driving down to Atlanta to pick up my new Salto this weekend. Looking for a little more volume for overnighters. Hopefully I'll be able to get it on something decent. The Chattooga's always there if no creeks go. I'll try to post some thoughts on the new Salto as soon as I get put in on some water.
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I've heard great things about the new salto coming from back east. I'll be getting one shortly and can let you demo it as soon as there's something running. I loved the old model and can't wait to see this one with the extra volume. I'm 6'0", 185lbs.
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