Originally Posted by raftus
If someone who isn't willing to run their raft through a rapid asks you to run their gear for them - they then own the responsibility since they asked you to put yourself at risk to help them. When I help others out by running tough rapids for them I always tell them that I can't guarantee a good line or that i won't flip their boat - no one has ever balked at this - and frankly I wouldn't want to boat with anyone that did.
Apparently you didn't read what Mania had said before. It sounds like communication wasn't completely dialed as the TL (whose boat was run by Mania) hinted that he wanted Mania to pay for the damage. Whether his position was right or wrong is beside the point. Front-end communication could have made this whole situation a non issue. However, as I stated above, there is a good chance I would have acted the same way Mania did in the given situation and not thought to clarify on the front-end. For you to imply that you are a better communicator than Mania by "always telling them..." feels a bit like the old addage "hindsight is always 20/20".
As far as Mania's boating skills, I probably worded it a bit harsh and for that I am sorry. I didn't mean to hurt anyone's feelings. Heck, this guy could be the Michael Jackson of boating for all I know.