Originally Posted by dirtbagkayaker
I know this wont make me popular in this forum, but come on. The MF is already over used. Its wilderness! 36+ boats a day on a 4 to 5 day float. That's about 100+ boats for about 100 miles of river. 1 boat for every mile! Thats way too much in my opinion. This is land protected for wild life. We a lucky to even be on this river at all! We are the guests and there are too many of us..
Which is exactly why I don't want access restricted during the low use time period. This is how it will start, then they will close the river completely. I can pretty much guarantee that will be the next step - NO launches during spawning time. Then the river, which is pretty damn good shape IMHO, will get no use for a month.
Besides I am a wild life myself. Just ask anyone who's been on my trips. So I go to sleep a little earlier these days after a night of drinking but it's still pretty wild.
If you are saying that we need to close the river to save the animals I think you are wrong.
Their logic is f\cked and there is no getting around that. The areas that fish use for spawning are not typically areas where a raft would get stuck.
After guiding on the main near Stanley and guiding it at ridiculously low levels, I have never gotten stuck anywhere near a spawning bed. Not once. At times when I was working, there were up to 50-60 spawning beds, 25 or 30 where we rafted regularly. The fish don't give a shit about the boats, they really don't. Yes sometimes they would move off the redd as we floated by and then would be right back in seconds. They also do this on their own. I have spent hours watching them. If we saw a redd while boating, we would try not to paddle or row and be quiet just to make sure we had low to no impact.
The end of August can be busy out there, but in September there are not 40 boats a day launching. Glad you are so lucky you drew permits. I have put in at least 20 times and never drawn once.
You may say it's wilderness and it is certainly wild and it is in a wilderness area, but with 40 to 50 cabins and homesites along the stretch and several air strips it's not really wilderness.
I often use the cancellation system and this sucks.