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Old 04-26-2016   #11
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The only thing I really found I didn't like about the 8.6 Mamba was the cockpit is huge in the knee area, way bigger than the 8.5 Nomad. It felt huge when rolling. I don't know if the same could be said for the medium sized Mamba/Nomads. Try one first because you don't want to always be wishing for a Nomad afterwards....

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Old 04-26-2016   #12
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sorry to throw this thread for a loop. But a Liquidlogic Remix 69 just came up and wondering how that would fit into the mix?

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Old 04-26-2016   #13
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I kayaked lots of big shit and wanted to tell you guys about it.

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Old 04-27-2016   #14
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sorry to throw this thread for a loop. But a Liquidlogic Remix 69 just came up and wondering how that would fit into the mix?
Remix is a decent river runner, but the 69 is only 69 gallons.... the Nomad 8.5 is 78. The Remix is going to be too small for you unless your 5'4 and 130 lbs...
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Old 04-29-2016   #15
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It feels like somewhere in about 2010 boat manufacturers decided to tweak the way they measure gallons so they wouldn't be accused of being small... because I have a Mamba 8.1 (released ~2012) which is supposedly 77 gallons, and a Nomad 8.5 (released ~2003) which is supposedly 78 gallons, and the Nomad is obviously bigger than than the Mamba any way you look at it. I remember seeing a Mamba 8.1, Nomad 8.5, and Mamba 8.6 at Confluence and the 8.5 was clearly in between the two Mamba's size-wise. And it boats that way. The new Nomad 8.6 seems to be about the same size as the Nomad 8.5 or a little narrower, and it supposedly has 86 gallons, which I think confirms my suspicions of a new "standard". Anyhow, Volume measurements seem to have some subjectivity and isn't the best measurement. Look at the recommended weight ranges and make sure you're in the bottom half of the range if you're creeking.

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