As a former outfitter and still working guide, I can speak to some of the issues in your post.
Guide training for rafting companies provides for several things. Replacement guides for ones who have left, expanding the company with more guides, and it also provides early season cash influx before the customers start coming back.
How many people will be hired? This is hard to quantify as it depends on the quality of the class as well as how many you end up needing.
We don't use ACCT in WA state so this is a non issue.
Totally agree with finding out what your trainers have for skills and time on the job.
Dietary needs??? Bring your own food. Don't drink too much the night before training and be an adult and don't rely on someone else to feed you appropriately.
How do you confirm ethical or return guide numbers. Many years we don't always know who will be coming back. Guides say they may come back and show up one or two times a year.
Swiftwater Rescue Tech or Whitewater Rescue Tech is an extremely great class to take, I think it is better for a second year guide than a first year guide. There is so much to learn when you first start that SRT is often not as effective a skill to learn and retain the first year. Also, SRT isn't cheap and would add several hundred dollars to the cost of a guide training class, which may take it from an affordable thing to a pipe dream for many people.
I think tip pooling is a horrible idea. I wouldn't work somewhere that did that.
Interesting that you taught things during a guide training class??? This is usually a sign of someone who hasn't checked an ego to learn, but has decided they need to be in charge.
In the end, it sounded like you had a bad experience. Sometimes that happens and it sucks. Teach that company a lesson, don't work for them or refer business to them.
All the above is just my two cents and almost two decades of outfitting and guiding commercial trips.
Originally Posted by badswimmer
Hey- just wanted to let you buzzards say your peace RE: guide training value. Make sure you aren't paying a couple hundo so some scumbag can make it thru mud season..
Confirm number of people to be hired
Confirm that you'll get your ACCT
Confirm trainer certifications/skillset
Confirm that your dietary needs will be met during training
Confirm that they are ethical and ask about # of return guides
If you aren't gonna get a swiftwater cert ask why.(during my "training" I learned very little, taught a lot, worried for future clientele, etc) my "instructor" didn't own his own pin kit, nor did he know how to use it...
Qualify skillset of trainer, our TL knew 3 strokes-forward, backward, menopausal..
ma & pop shops can be sweet, but they have a thin budget and I've seen some CC shops sell guide training/raft cpt instruction to make it thru mud season and to pay for new gear, so wrong...
Most of all- make sure you are copacetic with boss/coworkers, its a FUN job, thats why you have 2 other shit jobs for sustenance. watch out for tip poolers-watch em close, pooling is great if YOU(your crew) suck.
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