Lower Salmon Run

[noot]

Is it possible to make the run from Pine Bar to Heller Bar in 3 days?
we are thinking of running the lower section at the end of July in our 14' rafts. I have a motor that I was going to take so it would help out on the Snake part of the run. Any help on this would be much appreciated

[Turner]

Yes. Get an early start and camp around Maloney Creek 1st night, somewhere in or near Blue Canyon the second night and motor out on the Snake the last day. Might be some long days but it's possible, there are a few flat spots you could use the motor on the Salmon too...

[idahofloater]

Hell yes. motor boats do it all the time.

[noot]

Turner
How many hours do you concider a long day floating? also how long do you think it would take to motor out from the confluance to heller bar?

[Turner]

Sorry, I see that you are going the end of July. You should still have a decent flow then and you shouldn't have too long of days. But Pine Bar to Maloney Creek is about 22.5 miles, about 15 miles downstream is the mouth to Blue Canyon. If you stayed at the entrance to the canyon you'd have around 5 miles left of the Salmon and 20 miles on the Snake. Or you could stay at Half and Half Rapid the first night which would put you at mile 17.5 for the first night. Anyway, with a 5hp motor it takes me around 2.5-3 hours to motor from the confluence of the Salmon and Snake to Heller Bar. Usually it is the one motor for 2 or 3 boats tied together. Let me know if you have any other questions, I have run that section many, many times

[noot]

who would you reccomend for a shuttle?

[mcfarlandandrew]

Www.allriversshuttle.com
Located in whitebird on the way in so very convenient. Have always provided us with great customer service.

[noot]

is there a good place in whitebird or riggins to rent a river toilet? I heard that the rangers are sticklers for the right pooper

[mcfarlandandrew]

Not that I know of. Possibly a commercial outfit in riggins but very unlikely in whitebird. And yes you need an approved waste system along with all the other requirements listed on the usfs site like fire pan, strainer, blah blah. There are way too many 'cheap groover' threads on here to show up without at least a gamma/bucket/wag bag combo.

[ksmilbrath]

Pine bar run in 3 days is doable but pretty long days. Luggable Lu bags with 5 gallon bucket and pack bags in Rocket box. No issues with the Rangers. Been inspected several times with no issues.