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Old 07-08-2006   #1
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Looking for info on Green Rr. rapids in Dino. Nat. Mt.

A friend has a permit for Dino. in mid-August and we cant't seem to find much info on the 9 named rapids on the Green Rr. The guidebook shows the locations and I've read general descriptions on the river section including Powell's but haven't found any details on the individual rapids.
Do you know where there is a description, do you know the rapids and can give us a description of each?
I'm going to try and take photos and describe each rapid as we run them for future use.
Thanks, Tom

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Old 07-08-2006   #2
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If you can get your hands on a copy of Western Whitewater there are detailed descriptions of each significant rapid on the stretch.

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Nothing in the world is more yielding and gentle than water. Yet it has no equal for conquering the resistant and tough. The flexible can overcome the unbending; the soft can overcome the hard. - Lao Tse
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Old 07-08-2006   #3
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just got back...

...from running Gates of Lodore, put some descriptions on my site, perhaps they'll be of some use to you.


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Old 07-08-2006   #4
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Re: Looking for info on Green Rr. rapids in Dino. Nat. Mt.

Only "Hells Half Mile" needs to be scouted. The rest can be "scouted" on the fly. It's a gorgeous float with some great camps. Take a fly rod for Jones Creek. If you've got the dough, do the fly-back shuttle. The pilot will take you right up the canyon. I got some killer pix.
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i'm pretty sure you can buy a mile by mile guide for the run too. Check with the NPS, NRS or Downriver
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durango steve said it all. you will know its hells half mile. left bend. sounds way bigger than anything to that point when you float in. scouts on the left.
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Follow up to my post above - low water Lodore beta for rafts:

In my memory, running left at HHM is a lot trickier than it looks. The current is deceptive and looks like you can easily go on either side of the rock. The current actually will take you right or can put you into the rock pretty easily if you're trying to run left of it.

The main challange at Triplet will be the rock garden above it - you should spend as much time scouting how you'll get down that as you will the squeeze at the end. There's a rock in the middle at the end that you'll want to avoid too.

Have fun!

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Old 07-11-2006   #8
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Lodore is sweet. Great camping, beautiful scenery and a some really fun rapids. My first time down the river was fluxuating between 1100 and 1700 cfs, depending on what they were doing at the Flaming Gorge dam.

The first rapid is Winnies Grotto. It's an easy class II but if you screw up and hit the rock in the middle, you're probably going to flip. Start center with your stern pointed at the right bank and pull back towards river right. Should be no problem.

Next up is Disaster Falls. There's upper and lower. Upper is a straightforward drop through a hole and some waves. There's only one line through - it will be obvious. There's a huge eddy on river left above the drop and there will like be other parties scouting. Scout from the river left bank.

Lower Disaster is fairly easy and generally run left of center. However, there's really no good way to scout the rapid so take it slow, read and run and you should have no problems. Be sure not to get too far right. At certain water levels (low water) there's a small island that separates the current. The right channel leads you into a nasty overhanging wall that could cause problems. The last time I ran Lodore, a raft ran right of the island, slammed into the wall and one of the passengers broke an arm. Stay left and watch out for the rocks (mostly small but lots of them at low water). The rapid is bony in places and can trip you up.

Up next is Triplet. There are essentially three distinct rapids in Triplet. Hence the name. The first is a shallow rocky stretch of water that's fairly straightforward. Generally you want to start right of center and work left. There's a prominent pointy rock near the bottom of the rapid and you want to be left of that rock. it's not too hard.

Second part of Triplet is more or less a slot between two rocks. It's an obvious route but be mindful of the wall on the right. Stay away from the wall.

The last part of Triplet is a hard left turn through two boulders. You want to start center and work left away from the overhanging wall/slot. If you go into the slot, known to some as the 'birth canal', it will be a royal pain in the ass. Just stay left and watch the rocks at the bottom of the rapid. You can get a great scout from the Triplet campsite on river left. Follow the trail downstream through the campsite and you'll be able to see the entire rapid.

Hells. Hells is fun. There's a huge pool above the rapid and a great scout on river left. There are several routes through Hells (depending on water) but the easiest is to follow the obvious tongue of water, missing the rocks on the right. At the end of the tongue is Lucifer rock. You can either go right or left, dealers choice, but the right is probably easiest. You'll have to pull hard to the right but it's not too difficult. Just set up early and be ready for the move. Hells is long and fun. Enjoy the ride.

Lower Hells is basically a rock garden that is read/run. A run more or less down the center should get you through.

That's it until Split Mtn. There you'll find Moonshine (easy), SOB (run far right), School Boy (straight forward) and Inglesby (run left of the giant rock).

Have fun...

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