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Old 12-06-2005   #1
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Keep your fingers crossed...

Snowpack for...

Colorado Basin:

Colorado State-wide:

And enjoy it while its fluffy!

Nothing in the world is more yielding and gentle than water. Yet it has no equal for conquering the resistant and tough. The flexible can overcome the unbending; the soft can overcome the hard. - Lao Tse
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Old 12-06-2005   #2
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Hi Andy, it is still snowing up here today. Cold with very light and dry tiny flakes. Vail Mountain has set a new early season snowfall record. It sounds like the San Juans are missing out, like we did this time last year (and they got hammered). Gotta love the fluffy stuff, and then love it again when it melts. I read this today, and liked what they had to say:

(Source: Vail Daily

EAGLE COUNTY — While local resorts continue to issue breathless reports about record-setting early season conditions, those who keep an eye on water and snowpack levels are also pleased.

With snowpack for Vail Mountain at 143 percent of average as of Monday, Mike Bauer, water conservation specialist at Eagle River Water and Sanitation District, said we’re off to a “darn good start.”

At the Copper Mountain gauging site, the level is at 197 percent of average and the one at Fremont Pass, between Copper Mountain and Leadville, is at 218 percent.

“This is a really good start, but a lot depends on what happens from the middle of March until the end of June,” Bauer said, referring to the drought season of 01-02 when snowpack levels, which were trending just below average, dropped precipitously.

Even if that were to happen next spring, though, Bauer said the high totals now afford some leeway.

“If we have some kind of big melt-off, it might just mean it’d end up being closer to average,” he said. “The prognosis at this point is excellent.”

In a press release Monday, Vail Mountain said it’s set a new record for snowfall, logging the most ever to-date in its 43-year history. The resort has recorded snowfall about 5 feet above average for this time of year, with about 141 inches so far this season.

Vail already has several of its bowls open, including China Bowl, which opened Sunday along with the Orient Express chairlift. Blue Sky Basin is set to open Friday, for a total of 4,600 acres of open terrain.

Things are not as rosy in the southern part of the state, though. While snowpack for the entire Colorado River Basin stood at 128 percent of average as of Dec. 1, the Upper Rio Grande Basin was only at 23 percent of average, and the San Juan, San Miguel and Dolores basins were at 28 percent of average. Even the normally snowbound Wolf Creek area was at only 23 percent.

Alex Miller can be reached at 949-0555, ext. 14625, or

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Old 12-06-2005   #3
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If it keeps up like this we could be looking at 150+ inch mid-mountain bases. It sucks that down south isn't getting any of the love, but after the uneven snow fall the past couple of seasons, its time for Central and Northern Mtns to get socked in. Either way, great pre-season and hopefully an even better season!
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Old 12-06-2005   #4
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you all suck! Send some to us!!! We are less than 50% and lower on the curve (Durango Herald) than the 2001-02 drought year!
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Old 12-07-2005   #5
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What to paddle?

I spent all of Thanksgiving in Summit County skiing and last weekend in Vail. The skiing is incredible up there now. With it looking like it will be a poor winter here in the southwest I figured I will be coming up to paddle some big water up there this spring.

What are the runs that will be affected by all of this snow? I know we might have a chance at the Big Sur and we will have more good flows on Gore but what else will be good. I might be wrong but isn't the Blue and the Eagle rivers pretty worthless? Homestake creek, Dowd Chutes? The Ark will hindered by all of the Dams, will it still flow big? I am pretty much over the Ark but I have never paddled it really big, that would be worth a trip.

Thanks for any info.
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Old 12-07-2005   #6
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is Silverton getting any snow? I have a trip coming up in Feb and I was so sure it would be bitchin. hoping now that I didn't pay a shit ton for three days of shittier riding than I could've had for free up this way. my boys from SLC will be bummed, to, to take off work and drive 6 hrs away from their snowfilled canyons for nuthin. The word? With shitty snowpack will silverton still be any good?
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Old 12-07-2005   #7
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The value of the Blue is in what it adds to Gore. Value of the Eagle is Dowd's.
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The Piney river is a favorite that only flows on good years.

The Ark at high flows is pretty cool. It's a whole new river.
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Old 12-07-2005   #9
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the value of the eagle + blue + colorado = big sur
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Old 12-07-2005   #10
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The Red Mtn / Silverton Mtn corridor is picking up enough snow for decent conditions. Skied Red Mtn on Sunday, a little thin but skiable, snowpack stability is sketchy. This weather pattern is fairly common in Southwest Colo. Little or no snow early season but can hopefully expect a shift in Jan thru April.Something about zonal flow and the way storms start tracking in Jan. I've seen it go both way's though.

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