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Old 07-08-2011   #21
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That was an intense read, and it brought back memories of when I was involved in a kayaking fatality. Sounds like your safety was better than our setup usually is, but there just wasn't anything that could have been done. Very sad.

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Old 07-10-2011   #22
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Thank you Jens for sharing the trip report. I know it must have been hard to write and even harder to experience. My thoughts are with you his family and everyone else who knew this amazing young man.

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Old 07-12-2011   #23
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This may seem a silly question but has anybody ever thought about carrying a 4ft length of clear flexible tubing? I am sure you can roll it up pretty small. If you were able to get a air passage to the pinned Kayaker would that have saved him? I dont Kayak, just raft but I always hear of kayakers getting pinned just under the water in thier boats.

Just a thought.

Sorry for your loss.
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Old 07-12-2011   #24
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A few kayakers carry a breathing tube, and I've always thought that in an emergency you could cut the hose off a float bag and use that. I don't think I've ever heard of anyone using a tube, but it does seem like a good idea, especially for small creeks.

Always depressing to hear of a loss like this one. My condolences to family and friends.
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Old 07-12-2011   #25
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Vibes and condolences to all involved. Thanks for sharing, it couldn't have been easy.

The only takeaway is what we can learn and that requires this discussion.
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Old 07-12-2011   #26
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If memory serves, the Drago Rossi Mafia had a breathing apparatus of some sort. I like the float bag hose idea.
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Old 07-12-2011   #27
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Rapid | Extra air to breathe for Water Sports

I usually carry a flexible snorkle. The mouthpiece seems better to me than a hose from an airbag. Someone did attempt to use an air bag hose for a pinned boater in Brown's Canyon many years ago. My recollection is that it was unsuccessful.
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Old 07-12-2011   #28
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Very Sad...Condolences to all involved.
Incidents like this, and the breathing tube subject brought up, reminds me of the possibilies of carrying some sort of tiny, personal air tank. Like the "Breath of Life" pictured in this website. Of course, it wouldn't allow you to just sit under there and wait for rescue, but it may privide the extra 1 or 2 breaths you need to survive the situation, you know?
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Old 07-12-2011   #29
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Sorry for the double post...
But this seems pretty cool:
The extreme spare air
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Old 07-12-2011   #30
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Everytime I read one of these, it brings tears to my eyes...sincere condolences.

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