Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 09-28-2004   #11
Steamboat, Colorado
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 458
Hi Kara,

As always, thanks for the great information. The Big T's been a lot of fun and it has been great to get out and paddle so close to home this late in the year. I was wondering though, with the recent moisture and levels dropping off this morning, do you know what we might expect for flows on the Big Thompson canyon over the coming days/weeks?

Also, what do you know about flows for Gore Canyon (Colorado at Kremmling, or outflow from Green Mtn reservoir)?

And, Bailey (north fork of the South Platte River, or Chatfield Reservoir outflow)?

Many many thanks,

Originally Posted by klamb
Hi Arn and everybody,

Yup. They'll be making a change on Olympus Dam's gate after lunch today, so the upper section of the canyon should be running at 368 cfs by late this afternoon (perfect for that after-work run, I'd imagine).

We've got a good situation for kayaking on the Big T right now. Because we are doing some maintenance on the Charles Hansen canal, all water deliveries are being made through the Big T river. The maintenance will probably last another week. Agricultural demands for the last crop rotation will probably stay on through the majority of October. If the weather stays warm, these higher flows just might continue in the Big T. But, those are the three main factors: canal maintenance, agricultural demands, and weather.

So, keep your eyes on the gage, and feel free to give me a holler if you have any questions.


frenchy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-2004   #12
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 388
Kara doesn't deal with Bailey. As she mentioned, for Bailey we need to contact the Denver Water board.

Would be nice to know predicted flows from the Denver Water board!

cstork is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-30-2004   #13
Loveland, Colorado
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 510
Hi all,

I hope those of you who were going up to Big T yesterday still found it runnable. We started scaling back Tuesday night and I believe as of yesterday, flows were back down to 240 cfs.

I've been asked several times to predict what is going to happen next on Big T. Apparently, this is a hard prediction to nail down. The recent rain is playing havoc with the maintenance work. It is also changing municipal demands on the river almost hourly. So, our partners and water contractors are discussing how to handle the water delivery situation. When they come up with a solution, they will meet with us and we will make the final decision on how to adjust releases from Olympus Dam to the river.

But, that decision might not come about until late this afternoon. So, if you're planning on hitting Big T in the next 24 hours, keep a close eye on the gage. There is a possibility it could drop considerably in the next 24 hours. Or, it might not. I wish I had better data for you guys. Hopefully, tomorrow morning, I'll be able to shed more light on the cfs issue.

As for Bailey and Gore--cstork was right. I am not involved with releases on the S. Platte and don't know much about Bailey. Denver Water is your best bet. Give me a call and I'll see if I can't dig up a contact name for you over there. I have a guy in mind...

For Gore, as you all are probably aware, quite a few reservoirs contribute to the Colorado River flow through Gore. Green Mountain is just one of a handful. I try and keep current Green Mountain posts on this site. I'll run through my brief knowledge here really quickly, but this gets long, so consider yourself forewarned:

Upstream of Gore sources: We also own Granby and Willow Creek up by Grand Lake--but the drought has kept them pretty low the last few years, so there hasn't been much to report there. Even though we own them, the Northern Colorado Water Conservancy District operates them for us. When and if the drought lets up here, I can look into their release schedules for posting to this site.

Northern owns Windy Gap up by Granby and they are the sole operator.

Closer to Gore are Williams Fork and Wolford. These reservoirs were the results of west slope and east slope water wrangling and compromising. I believe Williams Fork was part of the compensation for Windy Gap and maybe also for some of Denver's development. So, I think three entities: Northern, Denver and the Colorado River Water Conservation District, contribute to the operations and releases of that reservoir.

Wolford is the result of compromising between Denver Water and the River District. I think--but I'm not sure and anyone can correct me if I'm wrong on this stuff--but I think the River District owns the majority of the water there. I think the two agencies work in tandem for those releases, though. Of all these upstream reservoirs, Wolford is closest to Gore, just north of Kremmling.

Gore flows are also partially dependent on if, and how much, Kremmling ranchers are checking and pumping their section of the river. There is also an old irrigation ditch there that runs, the "Big K", I think. So, a lot of water management happens in the stretch just before Gore Canyon.

The Muddy flows into the Colorado before the Blue, but I don't think it adds much. But, to keep tabs on all of this, the best contact would probably be someone from the State Engineer's Office. I'm not sure who the proper contact would be. But for Northern and the Colorado River District, I have names and numbers. Just let me know who you want to call.

Hope that beta is helpful and not too boring. Sorry to ramble on and on!

Kara Lamb
Public Information
Eastern Colorado Office
Bureau of Reclamation
(970) 962-4326
klamb is offline   Reply With Quote

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

Similar Threads
Topic Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Kara Lamb are you out there? GoodTimes Whitewater Kayaking 8 07-25-2006 09:43 PM
Kara Lamb... matts Whitewater Kayaking 2 07-20-2006 11:27 AM
Kara Lamb flipover Whitewater Kayaking 10 07-12-2006 09:37 AM
Kara Lamb- Big Thompson Arn Whitewater Kayaking 1 05-16-2006 11:06 AM
Does anyone have a ph # for Kara Lamb? thecraw Whitewater Kayaking 1 08-16-2005 10:21 AM

» Classified Ads
*!* Pyranha S6 200 with...

posted by MaxwellSilverKayak

Pyranha S6 200 playboat for sale. Great for larger...

Fred the Fuse 48

posted by kayaklifeislife

My first boat the Wavesport Fuse 48 I'm just putting it on...

Sea kayak

posted by chugwater1

Cleaning house. 17' wood sea kayak, adjustable foot pegs,...

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3

Our Communities

Our communities encompass many different hobbies and interests, but each one is built on friendly, intelligent membership.

» More about our Communities

Automotive Communities

Our Automotive communities encompass many different makes and models. From U.S. domestics to European Saloons.

» More about our Automotive Communities

Marine Communities

Our Marine websites focus on Cruising and Sailing Vessels, including forums and the largest cruising Wiki project on the web today.

» More about our Marine Communities

Copyright 2002-2012 Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 06:50 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2016, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.