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Old 09-27-2009   #1
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Jefe vs Remix 69 Input needed

I'm in the market for a new/used creeker/riverrunner. I am 6' 165 pounds. I started paddling 2 years ago, and have paddled a Jackson Fun for those 2 years. I have been steadily progressing into easier class IV's, and decided that my jackson fun has reached it's limit. Recently I got to demo a Jackson Hero in a class IV creek and felt very confident.

Next year I plan to run IV's and harder IV+ rivers/creeks. Both the Jefe and Remix have been suggested to me. I'm wondering if the learning curve on the jefe would be difficult, and basic pros/cons to either boat... displacement vs planing ect.

Any comments, suggestions, experiences would be awesome.


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Old 09-27-2009   #2
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Both the Jefe and Remix would be good options for you, I would also suggest checking out the Dagger Nomad and Wavesport should also check out this thread: Planning vs. Displacement for creeker
as well as this one: liquidlogic jefe or dagger nomad
and probably this one too: Karnali vs. Jefe

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Old 09-27-2009   #3
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I have paddled both. The Remix more as a program boat. I really like the speed and carve of it. Try all the sizes. The 69 would probably be what I would recommend but I paddle the 79 on creeky stuff 178 5'10 because it rides higher and though it is bigger, it turns easier. I have had a few friends who have switched from the Jefe to the Remix for the speed.

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Old 09-27-2009   #4
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I think it's fair to say the Remix is more of a "river runner" and the Jefe is more of a "creeker." Choose your boat based upon whether your expect more big water or more technical creeks.

fwiw, I had a Jefe last season and didn't love it, but really enjoyed paddling it, if you know what I mean. Not the right boat for me, but a fun piece of plastic to charge down the river in.
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Old 09-28-2009   #5
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yeah these guys pretty much go it. The jefe will be much slower but the rocker and displacement hull make it very forgiving. The remix is crazy fast and a lot of people are using it for some very steep creeking too. Sit in them both, I think there are a lot of great boats out there but how it feels on you is often overlooked and really important.
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Old 09-28-2009   #6
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I'd say Jefe. Remix if you were saying you were mostly going to be running big volume rivers. Jefe is better suited to a mix a rivers and creeks though. Remix may be more friendly to you out of the box, but it sounds like you're progressing at a reasonable pace and trying to get out a lot, so I think you'll pick up the feel of the Jefe in short time. When I got my first creeker I was really concerned about the transition from a playboat, which had been my exclusive boat, and being to able switch back and forth between the two. I think that concern is overblown. It will take an adjustment period, but you'll get the feel.

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