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Old 05-19-2010   #11
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Goldcamp, stop milking that rickety boat for everything it is worth. That thing was cracked midway through last year. Take the plastic off your brand new backup boat and use it, because by the time you break that one, the warranty will be expired.

Also, in general, I have cracked 3-4 Jackson's, I lost track and Jackson has always helped me out. I never paid more than 20%, except when I upgraded to a newer model. Best warranty in the business as far as I can tell.

I have never found an epoxy that has the right combination of adhesiveness, flexibility, and strength to contend with the abuse a typical front range creek can dish out. The bituthane has been best for me.

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Old 05-19-2010   #12
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I've started favoring multiple layers of gorilla tape applied with a heat gun over bitchithane. The bitch is a bitch to put on. If you get one bubble or crease, its ability to hold water out plummets. The bitch is still a good on river fix, but in my garage, I go for gorilla tape (which is far superior and not to be confused with regular duct tape). My current strategy is to put a piece of gorilla tape centered over the crack and extending several inches on either side of the crack. I then apply overlapping pieces of gorilla tape on either side as long as the first piece. Heat that layer up with a heat gun, hair dryer, etc and press the tape down with pressure but don't slide back and forth too much as it can move the hot tape around. After than I do about 3 more layers on top of the first one, each time going a little further with the tape so each layer overlaps the one it covers. Pay special attention to pressing down the perimeter of the layers and not getting any bubbles in the layers.

I personally think that this setup will keep water out better than bitchithane. I've have bitchithane leak due to small creases in the material, and I've also had bitchithane leak when hull flexing loosened it and water eventuall crept through a channel. The gorilla tape forms a very good bond, is easier to apply without bubbles, and is easy to find at the local hardware store.

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Old 05-19-2010   #13
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JJD, yes, the SL's are completely weldable.. That and the fact they are 150.00 less are the upsides. The downsides are warranty is not as strong as Elites and also no sweet cheeks or happy feet (for the playboats)... The SL outfitting is actually better looking in my opinion and certainly very comfy, but I am addicted to the sweetcheeks...
Striker, assuming you are still under warranty, you will be stoked on the service you get. If you want to speak with me, please contact me at any time... marty at jackson kayak dot com...
"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body. But rather...To skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming... WOW !!!! What a ride!!!!!!"
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The JK customer service is the best in the industry without question.

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