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Old 03-26-2008   #11
jona

Profile:  Bellegem, belgium
Paddling Since: 3
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 9
Thanks for the reply. I was a littlebit nervous to use my 4Fun, but now I'm looking forward. thanks.
Verry welcom in belgium. altough there is not much white water. (most are only allowed in winter for Belgian boaters, the rivers only have water a few times a year)
But if you want to visit nordwest europe, I live close to bruxels, brugge and gent. (all city's with much historical herritage,...) 3h drive from Paris and amsterdam.
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Old 03-26-2008   #12
spartankayaker

Profile:  Portland, Oregon
Paddling Since: 2006
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 23
Good boat, if you are in the weight range

I just got sold my 07 4Fun in favor of its larger brother, SuperFun. The main reason was that, though a great boat, I was at the top end of the weight range and, as stated, it can get pushed around. That said, it was totally stable and fun on class III/IV water. The SuperFun, however, has been with me for about 2 months now and at 70 gallons is a far better choice for the larger (I'm 6ft 205 lbs) paddler. It does not get pushed about by bigger water and is incredibly stable in Class III/IV water. Having paddled both, if I was going into unfamiliar Class III/IV territory and wanted a Jackson river running playboat, I'd take the SuperFun.

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Old 03-26-2008   #13
Buckrodgers

Profile:  Teacher, Fort Collins/Buena Vista, Colorado
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 29
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I just got sold my 07 4Fun in favor of its larger brother, SuperFun. The main reason was that, though a great boat, I was at the top end of the weight range and, as stated, it can get pushed around. That said, it was totally stable and fun on class III/IV water. The SuperFun, however, has been with me for about 2 months now and at 70 gallons is a far better choice for the larger (I'm 6ft 205 lbs) paddler. It does not get pushed about by bigger water and is incredibly stable in Class III/IV water. Having paddled both, if I was going into unfamiliar Class III/IV territory and wanted a Jackson river running playboat, I'd take the SuperFun.

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Are you able to throw that superfun around at all? I am looking into getting a 4fun, and am 6'3", 215lbs. I'm coming from a Pyranha 420 that doesn't quite fit me for river running (too squirrley for my skills), although I ran class IV fine in both my 420 and former kingpin 6.3. Just need more comfort/control, but still want to play, and was worried about the superfun being too big to actually play. What is your experience, having owned both??
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Old 03-26-2008   #14
spartankayaker

Profile:  Portland, Oregon
Paddling Since: 2006
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Are you able to throw that superfun around at all? I am looking into getting a 4fun, and am 6'3", 215lbs. I'm coming from a Pyranha 420 that doesn't quite fit me for river running (too squirrley for my skills), although I ran class IV fine in both my 420 and former kingpin 6.3. Just need more comfort/control, but still want to play, and was worried about the superfun being too big to actually play. What is your experience, having owned both??
Well, the Superfun is a big boat, so that is the baseline. I go it as more of a technical river runner and big volume river boat... I've done some surfing in it, but not alot. For my size, it seems to not pearl as easy as the 4Fun did and it is much easier to catch waves on the fly. I'm not a very good playboater, but I'd have to say that if you are bigger than me, you should have the wherewithall to throw it around. That said, if you are looking for a play boat that feels like the Fun series, I'd go with the SuperStar... paddlers up here in the PacNW seem to like it... I demoed one and enjoyed the feel, but really wanted to stay with the lines and performance characteristics of the Fun line.

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Old 03-28-2008   #15
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Spartan....

I'm 6'2 about 203 and I feel like the 4fun is PLENTY of boat and volume. I got in the SuperFun (the 07+) and felt like I was in a cruise liner. How can one throw the bow of that boat down???

I have a friend on the board that has a 4Fun and he's 185 and loves his too. It's a great boat for the all around downriver play/river runner. One thing without a doubt.... you can't beat the comfort. I can stay in my boat ALL day long without aches and pains (minus those caused by the river... please bless me river gods).

Jackson's Spec's on the 4fun from JacksonKayak.com:

Total boat range: 165-230
Ideal River Running: 165-210
Ideal Play boating: 190-230
Ideal Overall: 180-220

SuperFun: Ideal Playboating weight is 210-260

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Old 03-28-2008   #16
spartankayaker

Profile:  Portland, Oregon
Paddling Since: 2006
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Spartan....

I'm 6'2 about 203 and I feel like the 4fun is PLENTY of boat and volume. I got in the SuperFun (the 07+) and felt like I was in a cruise liner. How can one throw the bow of that boat down???

I have a friend on the board that has a 4Fun and he's 185 and loves his too. It's a great boat for the all around downriver play/river runner. One thing without a doubt.... you can't beat the comfort. I can stay in my boat ALL day long without aches and pains (minus those caused by the river... please bless me river gods).

Jackson's Spec's on the 4fun from JacksonKayak.com:

Total boat range: 165-230
Ideal River Running: 165-210
Ideal Play boating: 190-230
Ideal Overall: 180-220

SuperFun: Ideal Playboating weight is 210-260

Jeff
You do have a point, it is a big boat, which does limit its playability. If I was to choose a boat in the Fun series to be my playboat, I'd choose the 4Fun... that I did not make clear earlier. You're right, the SuperFun is not as easy to throw around, but at 6 ft and 215, I can get the bow to bury, but that is more a function of having a bit more weight and less height to stretch it over.

I'll second your comments on the comfort... totally easy to be in the boat all day and feel comfy, unless, as you say, the river decides otherwise... (good karma for tomorrow, good karma for tomorrow).

Happy paddling!
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