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Old 05-30-2012   #11
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Originally Posted by ryanB View Post
I talked to someone at CKS last week and they said regular releases would be starting in the beginning of June. We are counting on it and keeping our fingers crossed because we will be there for FIBARK and the week after from Georgia. I'm guessing it might be more a low flow creek run on some of the Ark. At least we are used to bony creeks as a regular thing where we paddle

Anyways. It's always a blast out there. No matter what the flows are there are always many other things to keep you occupied
This was the latest from one of the most reliable sources on this site:

Originally Posted by Mike Harvey View Post
Just received an update from AHRA. The bottom line is there will be a flow program. However there will not be enough of a flow program to get us to the normal 700cfs. Without getting into every detail there is a deficit. Its pretty obvious, not enough snow, not enough coming into the storage system = very little water available to augment flows.

No one knows what flow they will be able to maintain at this point because it depends on the weather. If native flows drop very low soon and the augmentation needs to last all summer then the target flow will be low. If there is precip. and cooler temps and native flows peter along for a while then maybe in July we can still be in this 400-500 range. The basement is 250 because that is what the BOR tries to maintain to keep the fish cool.

As someone that paddles the Ark year round I can tell you that there is plenty of fun to be had at lower flows and when its hot...I'm going paddling. Great year to learn to SUP .
and remember, the place they measure "program flows" is at the Wellsville gauge, below Salida and many tributaries that come in below the Numbers. If they are augmenting it to say, 500 cfs at Wellsville, that will probably give you something in the 350-450 range above Buena Vista.....depending on irrigation.

I would say plan on low water Numbers and Pine Creek runs, as well as possible Gore Canyon, and maybe Barrel Springs? The South Platte will probably be your savior as it will likely run (at least a few days) while your here.

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Old 05-30-2012   #12
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FYI the last info I got from the BLM is that the Upper C including Gore Canyon will be running at 1100 June through August. If that holds true we will see!

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Old 05-30-2012   #13
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Yup,the BLM is saying that 1,100 c.f.s. will be running through Gore Canyon starting in early June.
That will also help out barrell/ shoshone/ glenwood whitewater park.
Fingers crossed!
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Old 05-31-2012   #14
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That's great news on Gore. 1,100 is a good time.
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Old 05-31-2012   #15
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I'll happily run Gore with you the week you're here, especially if it's 1,100, but even if it's 400.
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Old 05-31-2012   #16
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Thank you for the offer. We would really appreciate a Gore guide. I agree, I will be there, at either 450 or 1100, or anything in-between.

Hey id725, what is your number? I will send you a text or leave a message on the board if we are looking to get on Gore. I will be in Colorado looking to boat between 6/13 - 6/24.
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Old 05-31-2012   #17
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Eric Kuhn of CRD said 1100 cfs, not BLM!

Oy! This needs clarification. In an email to permitted outfitters, I said that “someone” at the State of the River meeting had said the river would get above 1000 cfs. That 1000 and 1100 cfs quote came from Eric Kuhn, General Manager of the Colorado River District. He said it during the State of the River address in Granby. Please see the article in the 5/11/2012 edition of the SkyHiDailyNews. The article is called: "Dry" is the word at State of the River.

He says: "Because of reservoir levels, water users should see in June, July and August "fairly decent flows this year in Gore Canyon below Kremmling," Kuhn said, because that section is below reservoirs. "My guess it will come up to about 1,000 (cfs), maybe even 1,100 and stay there. So the rafting and fishing in those streams might be OK."

FYI, the BLM will never know water flows any better than any of you, dear readers. (The release formula is too political for me. ?
I get info from Kara Lamb, who works for the Bureau of Reclamation, who usually posts updates here.

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