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Old 05-21-2015   #11
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What's the ethical dilemma? That he wants a German made boat instead of supporting an American company? Globalization buddy.

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Old 05-21-2015   #12
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I can't imagine there is any ethical issue as long as the recipient and website are being transparent with the donors. I think many of us find the idea silly and selfish but my worldview in this case shouldn't stop like-minded people from helping each other out. I see no difference between artist having patrons and anybody else especially if they get to live vicariously through the person's endeavors. I definitely don't find much value or support for the flimsy idea of the protestant ethic that believes there is an scale of inherent value, i.e. high versus vice.

Let bygones be bygones in this case as I see no real harm to anybody.


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Old 05-21-2015   #13
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I see the kid's request as another way of asking for gift cards for his B-day, but just not to Best Buy or Target. Let's his friends and family contribute to something he actually likes.
On the other hand, I can also see the laziness factor. Dude's not 13 with no chance of a J O B. He's got a GoPro and some type of computer to edit and post youtube a video that shows he's got TWO chainsaws and other boats. If he was in dire need of this toy, then he could sell some of his other toys. I will pass on donating to him.

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Old 05-21-2015   #14
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I don't think it's necessarily unethical if he's being honest and transparent. That being said, I'm not going to send him any money. I have my own boating gear to fund.
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Old 05-21-2015   #15
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Can't say it's unethical, but unless you have no family and are too young to have a job, you should post in bold, "total loser in need of a handout." I you work for it, I'd be willing to guess you'd take batter care of it and appreciate it a lot more. Just sayin, not necessarily unethical, but not really respectable. You have a conscious, which is why your asking.
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Old 05-21-2015   #16
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If people want to fund its their money they can do what they want with it. Not unethical at all.
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Old 05-21-2015   #17
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Totally ethical, totally tacky and worthy of endless amounts of shit talking. No different than trust funding.
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Old 05-21-2015   #18
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Need beer, whiskey, and weed. Just dumped 12k into a new rig, please donate to my go fund me page so I can afford to pull a permit.

You know, Frederick Fucking Chopin.
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Old 05-22-2015   #19
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you can ask, personally I'm not gonna give you a dime.
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Old 05-22-2015   #20
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