incident on the gunnison?

[Jensjustduckie]

Hunters do, so if you want to poach Westy you don't need a jacket. Logical right?

[Claytonious]

Maybe we should have a law that makes anything dangerous illegal. Maybe we should outlaw class five kayaking. Paddling class five with all the necessary safety gear is probably more dangerous than paddling flat water without a life jacket.

Many people get on rivers because it is adventurous. When you get on your raft or in your kayak you are taking a risk. Sometimes people die. We will never be able to create laws that can protect people in all possible circumstances.

I wear a life jacket, I also don't kayak rapids that I think will kill me, it is a personal choice. I would never tell another adult that they can't do something because it may be harmfull, unless by doing the act they were putting others in danger. If you eliminate all possible danger, you take the adventure out of things.

[jbarnow]

Sorry to the family and friends of the victim this is a tradic and unlucky event. Condolences.

A new thread needs to be started to discuss your additional PDF regulations/laws and darwinism theories. This is not the place!

[rwhyman]

Agree, see new thread

PFD laws?

Originally Posted by jbarnow

Sorry to the family and friends of the victim this is a tradic and unlucky event. Condolences.

A new thread needs to be started to discuss your additional PDF regulations/laws and darwinism theories. This is not the place!

[JHimick]

Originally Posted by jbarnow

A new thread needs to be started to discuss your additional PDF regulations/laws and darwinism theories. This is not the place!

Bullshit. This thread is not a memorial. This thread started because someone sought more information on an accident and now its a discussion about river safety. If you want to start a memorial thread go right ahead. This is a prefectly acceptable forum to talk about about PFDs and responsible river actions, whether or not unpopular opinions are expressed.

[gh]

JHimick, Maybe we need a thread asking if assholes should be allowed on the internet?

[CGM]

Originally Posted by JHimick

Bullshit. This thread is not a memorial. This thread started because someone sought more information on an accident and now its a discussion about river safety. If you want to start a memorial thread go right ahead. This is a prefectly acceptable forum to talk about about PFDs and responsible river actions, whether or not unpopular opinions are expressed.

Agreed. I think that the logical progression of the conversation is to how we can better educate and/or/not regulate safety on rivers. I religiously read Charlie Walbridges accident summary's to try and understand what I can do to be safer on the water. I have been following this thread for the same purpose. No one has made any personal remarks regarding the victims actions other than to try and state the known facts. The fact that a discussion on safety and river regulation has emerged is not calous or disrespectful....its pragmatic. Stop being so sensitive.

Here's a new topic for you: Why is everyone so concerned about what context/forum/thread you can have a discussion about something?? Maybe we should just add a whole NEW forum dedicated to river safety and a whole NEW forum dedicated to memorials for river accidents. That way, no one's feelings will get hurt even though everyone hides behind an anonymous internet handle!!