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Old 07-13-2009   #1
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Incident at the Mish

Last night, Sunday July 12th, me and a bunch of friends (fellow Poudre guides) had planned to raft into the concert at the Mish. We figured we would raft in, listen to a few songs, hang out on the raft and have a few beers. When we arrived we pulled into the eddy right near the stage. A few of us got off the raft to say hey to some friends. We were not there longer than 2 minutes before we were asked to leave. We knew this was a possibility so we were not surprised. However, security and the owner Robin were exceedingly irate and rude. We paddled to the eddy on river left about 30 yards down. Security shined lights on us and we debated what we wanted to do. We needed to get the boat reorganized and decide where we would paddle or pull out.

Someone mentioned that they thought there were rocks being thrown. A few small stones hit the raft. I jokingly said "if they are going to throw rocks I will out on my hemet." Thank goodness I did because 60 seconds later a rock about the size of an egg hit me directly on top of my head and left a good ding on my helmet. Another good sized one hit one of the other girls in the raft. At that point we became really nervous and started paddling downstream. Security followed us below guide hole and another verbal altercation ensued.

Were we trying to see the show for free? Yeah. Is this trespassing? Yeah. We were told he owns the land on river left, but we believed we were off his property line when we pulled over river left. However the response was really extreme and unwarranted. We left when asked and that should have been the end of it. The security there seems to be a lot of meat head d-bags looking for trouble.

Moral of the story: Fuck the Mish, I know we will never go there again and will not recommend it to anyone else. If you plan on paddling in this season I recommend a full face mask helmet and a paintball gun.

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Old 07-13-2009   #2
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But they treated us so hospitably last year after the Gnarrows race...

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Old 07-13-2009   #3
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I thought the kayak community was boycotting mish? I heard there was BS treatment from the owners last year toward some boaters.
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Old 07-13-2009   #4
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Yes the Gnarrows race.. the reason I will never go to the mish again..
Sounds like an assult via rocks is reason to press charges against those coke heads..
On a lighter note.. Rivers at 2.9 Whens the Gnarrows race.. should be 2.5 soon
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Old 07-13-2009   #5
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I have no love for the Mish. I've been there a few times in the past and the employees have always seemed "inconvenienced." Even if you were trespassing that doesn't give them the right to chuck rocks at you. Next time, anchor right in the middle of the river, dig out your Marshal full stack and start jamming while the concert is going on. They may own both sides of the river but they don't own the middle!
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Old 07-13-2009   #6
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thowing rocks can actually be assault with a deadly weapon. I think if it actually hits you, it's battery.

but was it security? it might have been some of the idiots attending the show. otherwise, I hear a lawsuit in the works.
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Fuck the mish. We were there last year after the concert with tons of people and those d-bags pretty much destroyed a mellow after party. The security is totally over the top coked out meat heads at best.
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Old 07-13-2009   #8
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one thing I noticed last time i ws up there: the crowd that ws showing up at the Mish was a pretty skanky looking group. It occured to me then that there might be some fights and violence at that place.

I think there might be a need for aggressive and tough security to keep the peace, although if it was security throwing rocks at boaters, they need to have charges pressed.
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Old 07-13-2009   #9
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I also noticed driving by that they have 2 to 3 miles all blocked off along both sides of the road before and after the Mish, with their security.

How much of that is public property I would like to know? Because they shouldn't be able to force you not to park there if they don't owe, and it was a lot of mileage....

Have you called the sheriff about the rocks I think that is total BS!
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Old 07-13-2009   #10
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I called the sheriff tonight, they said they would look into it. Hopefully they will make a call up there and tell them to calm down.

We also wondered how they blocked off all that road. Isn't Dead Deer Forest Service land?

It was for sure security that threw the rocks... After they chased us down I went up and talked to them and they never denied it and even apologized (sort of).

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