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Old 11-05-2014   #41
Cottonwood, Arizona
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I have no opinion on Thrillseekers other than they are made in the US, which is great. I thought they were made of a urethane material, but the website states the use of PVC. Their tubes appear to diminish quite narrowly at the ends, more so than SL's. A good friend of mine has had his SOTAR Fabreezi for over 10 years now, and picked it up used. It's been down tons of bony AZ rivers loaded to the gills on multi day excursions, been up and down a thousand miles of washboard dirt roads, and the thing doesn't even sport a single patch - which I find to be a testament of the durability of SOTAR's material.

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Old 11-06-2014   #42
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Originally Posted by GratefulOne View Post
I have to say the only thing im disappointed in about the SOTAR is, I have noticed that it is slightly twisted.... on a flat surface, one of the tubes is not flat with the other.... I don't notice it on the water... but it keeps bothering me when I throw it ontop of my truck rack...

Im sure they would make it right, but its not worth it to me right now , to hassle with shipping another boat back to Sotar.
I see twisted IKs on Aire's sale page a few times a year. Probably hard to get them perfect and probably doesn't affect performance. For a $2000+ boat though? I'd holler at them and at least see what they say. Tell them to replace it and sell the twisted boat to me at half price.

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and yeah yall are right... thrillseekers are rad, and SOTAR may have
I thought I read that the TS guy (Atilla?) worked for SOTAR and helped them with that design. Too lazy to search...

There is a huge difference between the floor styles still - which is why I'm interested in the SOTAR. It's been a while since I've paddled a TS, but I didn't like having to get the floor just right - I prefer to pump it tight and go. A thinner floor that is rock hard slides over rocks just fine for me, and the SOTAR fabric does great at this.

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Old 11-06-2014   #43
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yeah you are right I probably should call about it... and probably will in the off-season... I just felt like I caused enough headaches for them and me when swapping out the 10' for the 11'... ( not to mention I had to fork over quite a bit extra dough) .... but yeah at that price you don't want to see any twisting....

and yeah the Sotar has been sliding over rocks nicely for me... I use the footpegs, push up with my feet, and lift my butt off the floor...then it greases right over rocks...
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Old 11-07-2014   #44
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Due to a horrific accident, I now have a titanium cage on my spine. Finally, spine Doctor cleared me to paddle and raft (in his words, do not do stupid hard moves that tend to twist my spine - he specifically said no more kayak roll moves) So I went from hard shell kayaks and Aire 18 Cat boat to a Thrillseeker IK and JPW Cutthroat mini cat raft. Used both boats this season and am real happy with both. But, to get to the point of this post. My Thrillseeker is made of PVC with some sort of urethane coating on the bottom of the tubes according to Attila. So far, my Thrillseeker is reasonably close to feeling like a hard shell except for carving nice tight moves into / out of eddies. And, if I do swim, it is easy to get back inside. So I am happy with it. However doing some end of season low water runs of the ARK with a bud who lives there, we went by River Boat Works end of season clearance and they made me a deal on a demo Aire Outfitter IK. Being a fan of the Aire bladder and outer skin system, I think the Outfitter just might give me a bit more mind comfort doing a low water Salt River self support type runs. Altho, I am told the Thrillseekers hold up well in bony West VA creek runs - maybe some Buzz IK boaters can add to Thrillseeker bony toughness. I did a lot of bony runs in my Aire rafts and other than a minor scratch here and there zero problems. I am hoping to get more creek runs in both IK's during this creek season and can give a better opinion on how both perform on low water runs.
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Old 11-07-2014   #45
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sk100DS IK specs

I got my IK and set it up. Fully inflated the specs are: Length...9',3"s. their ads say 10'. The advantage of this is it can be squeezed into the interior of my RAV4 fully inflated. Will have to see if there are any drawbacks of this on the water.Its width is 35-36"s, about what their site says. Tube diam is 10-10 1/2 "s. The D loops are nicely placed and I could attach my AIRE thigh straps easily.The seat itself is neither too comfortable nor too awkward. The footbrace idea is also nice although I bulked it up with more cylindrical foam but this was just my preference. Hoping to hit the water soon.
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Old 11-07-2014   #46
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Lots of great low volume thrillseeker action on this classic!

A Token of My Extreme: A Token of My Extreme - YouTube
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Old 11-07-2014   #47
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That was the most hardcore IK action I've ever seen, complete with a porno soundtrack.
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Old 11-07-2014   #48
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Awesome video! I know that the 1-man cat Attila is building for me will be totally badass! JIMM, I have the same Sevylor IK and it has been worth every penny. Very fun and maneuverable but doesn't take on big waves well. It needs more rocker and more drain holes for bigger water but does well if you keep paddling and can eddy out. Not super durable but has never failed catastrophically and is not hard to repair.
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Old 11-07-2014   #49
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The ending is incredible and that 100ft slide in a squirt boat is maybe the craziest thing in the whole video. If you boat much in Northern WV, you'll still see alot of those guys on the river, mainly seeing who can stay down the longest and showing off their exquisite squirt boats.

I posted the video so everyone could see what thrillseeker r&d looked like. The boat was purpose built for elf gnar.
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Old 11-07-2014   #50
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WOW, what a video. Did not think my ThrillSeeker's design was based on running stuff like this video shows.

Awesome stuff and thanks for getting this video out.

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