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Old 02-26-2008   #11
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I got to do some fantastic hikes (with a sling at first, didn't realize how much the arm is used in "just" walking) while rehabing an elbow injury from too much fun on Dolores-Stampede. Lived in SW CO for decades and saw so many new spots! An amazing time of discovery, of patience mostly.

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Old 02-26-2008   #12
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Originally Posted by lotsawater View Post
Why don't you take up knitting or shopping like a normal girl, maybe you and Frenchy are finally ready for kids, no?
You're pretty funny there, sound like my in-laws. Now even Behjat is starting to work on us too. We still can't even decide if we can deal with the responsibility of a puppy. Speaking of puppies...after seeing JJ's feisty little Lucy the other night, I don't think it will be long before she is beating you in the Gnarrows race too. And Evan's girlie will probably be right behind her. Looks like we might have to start looking for a pink belt buckle soon.

Raftus, I've never really considered learning to row before, but lately it is sounding like a really good option. If nothing else, I could fill the job of rubber-bar-maid.

JJ, the Puffs have already tried to recruit me as their shuttle bunny too...not sure how I feel about that. I guess as long as there are some Lotsaswimming stories and a little PBR light, it could be fun. Kidding, Pete, kidding. You know I wouldn't laugh at that.

Thanks for the encouragement and all the runs to add to my late summer 'to do'!

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Old 02-26-2008   #13
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Man, stop getting hurt people. I don't like to hear these things. But the video is way cool. How did you get the video anyway? Is that standard issue with arthroscopic surgery or something? I have no qualifications to suggest one way or the other on starting boating early, but if it were me, I wouldn't risk re-injury just to get some more days in this year. Maybe your ortho will change his time frame when he discovers how much effort you put into rehab.

It does seem like a good time to reconnect with other activities that you miss out on because of boating. Maybe hang with some of those non-boating friends and find out what the hell they do in the spring. I caught up big time on my backlog of books when I was stuck on the couch cranking my elbow back and forth for hours after a bad injury.

Roy, what got you on the Big T? I kind of like to hear these stories so I can figure out how to avoid one myself.

Well, sorry to hear about the injuries and good luck with the recovery.
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Old 02-26-2008   #14
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Roy, what got you on the Big T? I kind of like to hear these stories so I can figure out how to avoid one myself.
I just got stopped by some nondescript hole between the sluff section and the first IV after that. The hole flipped me on the way out and when going for my roll, the shallow bottom caught my elbow in a vulnerable position and out it popped. I've had trouble with it in the past--in fact had the same procedure done 8 years earlier.

Not much of a story, really. No lessons to be learned beyond "keep the plastic side down"...
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Old 02-26-2008   #15
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All I had done was a SLAP repair (labrum tear from 6-12'oclock on the posterior side) and a glenoid capsule reduction. But, with that said,
I started rehab at 10 days and was in the swimming pool trying to "run/walk" laps at 1 month.

At 2 months, I was slowly, and I mean slowly paddling down class 1 rapids.

At 3 months, to the day, I went back to creeking. This was very premature and in my opinion was safe. It was a non-continous drop/pool creek that I was very familure with and it had 1 move type of lines.

I flipped over, for the first time once I moved to CO and it was ~6 months after surgery. It was actually the first day that I boated the Upper Narrows and I was with Frenchy and the rest of the FOCO crew.

By 6 months I was confident in my shoulder and it's strength to paddle class 5. After 2 years, I still won't drop a slide, that ends in a wall, and hit it with my "bad" shoulder. I'll walk my ass around stuff that require hard hits to that side.

Keep it safe and good luck. When you're in rehab see how much water exercises you can incorperate into your workout. Those bands that they give you are also great.

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Old 02-26-2008   #16
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Bummer Holley. You do have some hope for clear ck. I know i've run it near 300 on 4th of july in the last few years. in 95 it was still 300 in early sept.

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Old 02-26-2008   #17
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My advice, go hiking, climb some of those big Colorado peaks, go camping, take a tropical vacation, do something fun that doesn't just make you miss boating and all your friends. Unless you go rafting and that doesn't just torture you. My experience with major ski injuries, where I couldn't ski, is I did better just distracting myself with some other activity for a while. Once I was back in action I got to play and see all my best friends again.

Just like training a puppy. When they are doing something you don't want them to do, give them something else to do, something they want to do. Diversion is helpful.

And by all means, listen to your physical therapist!
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Old 02-26-2008   #18
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good luck

Holley, I hope you're on the mend.

Play it safe all summer and by November when you're feeling nice and strong talk Brian into coming down for a visit.

There'll be plenty of warm water and sunshine to kick those shoulder surgery blues.
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Old 02-26-2008   #19
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thats a bummer!

I am with Raftus on the learning to row or atleast go on some booze cruses. As long as you don't jam the oars on rocks or something, it should be ok on the shoulders.

We still need to meet up and paddle or maybe for a while meet up and drink! Let me know when you are feeling better. There is still pleanty to paddle in the fall (Gore, Bailey, Royal Gorge, Westwater, waterton, the play parks).

Don't let the boys make you shuttle bunny unless they totally make it worth it. (I suggest you ask for good booze, cookies and a personal shuttle-boy-bunny when you are better)
"I would lick it up if it weren't all glassified and on concrete"
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Old 02-26-2008   #20
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I am truly bummed....
I was totally looking forward to paddling with you and the FC girls. I finally have a schedule where I will be able to boat regularly during the week and am planning to rally to FC for some runs!
No worries though.... plenty running all summer!
Locally- hopefully Bailey, of course Gore, I have run Clear Creek into July. Westwater trips. I just did the Salt last weekend and am totally up for rallying float trip runs in off permit season. I am sorry but I don't think I will rally the Black Canyon again...
Do you mind driving?? Idaho- NF Payette at least the lower 5 and some of the upper. Pacific NW- I would love to make another trip out there in August. If it rains in AZ...? And then international winter trips...
Take it easy- jump on some float trips- I will let you know when we are doing these. You should take it easy on the raft- sit back and have a beer! It will be worth the wait when you are all healed!!

PS Raftus is trustworthy... I think. I do recall him blaming someone for missing a paddle stroke to make a line though.

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