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Old 06-07-2011   #1
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High brace = dislocated shoulder

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Old 06-07-2011   #2
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Define what you mean by high brace and how it caused your dislocation. A properly executed high brace has a low degree of risk; An improperly executed high brace (and a bunch of other improperly executed strokes) will rip your shoulder out.

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Old 06-07-2011   #3
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Improperly executed high brace equals shoulder dislocation
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all high braces are danger
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Old 06-07-2011   #5
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Bob, can you enlighten us as to the difference btwn a properly executed high brace and an improper one...I am very curious to know what the differences are. Thanks
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Old 06-07-2011   #6
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Sorry to hear that Devan; I did the same thing last May. The good news is with all of the runoff there will still be some dam release runs going when you are healed up in ~3 months. Good luck with the rehab!
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Old 06-07-2011   #7
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I second the motion to clarify a proper high brace. I was under the impression that low brace was the only "safe" brace. Sucks about your shoulder man, I hope you at least get to booze cruise with some rafters.
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Old 06-07-2011   #8
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I use the high brace frequently... and there are multiple situations where it is the stroke of choice.

A proper high brace has the elbow down at belly button level and close to your body, and your shoudler is all the way down. Wrists are at shoulder level with the power face of the blade down.

A high brace executed from an aggressive forward leaning position can be used to ride diaganol waves and to keep from flipping in turbulent drops.

The wrong way to do a high brace is to let your elbows come up and away from your body, let your shoulder rise up, and let your hands come up at near head level.

Its easy to tell beginners never to do a high brace, but for more advanced boaters, the key is knowing when and how to do a high brace.

Bummer about your shoulder injury.
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Old 06-07-2011   #9
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That sucks about the shoulder injury. Seems like a lot of injures lately getting chalked up lately. Be safe (message for myself as well).

Regarding the high brace, I often have some trouble distinguishing between a high brace and forward stroke. I mean, I know what a flailing high oh-shit brace looks like, but I feel like I fairly frequently do things that are probably like a high brace but I turn them into forward strokes. Know what I mean? Expert comments? I've honestly seen very few - perhaps zero - kayakers that never use a high brace. How it's executed definitely can reduce the risk: elbows in, rotating the torso instead of stretching out the arm, etc.
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Agree... agressive forward posture allows you to turn a high brace for instant stability into a forward stoke in kind of a dynamic duffek stroke kind of move. Use it all the time.

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