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Old 05-08-2012   #41
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I will guarantee you that I can set up and roll faster without one of these than you can with one. A failed brace gets you pretty close to set up.

I think the concensus here and on Boatertalk is that this might be a training aid but is no replacement for proper rolling technique.

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Old 05-17-2012   #42
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Originally Posted by caspermike
I'm lost... So what about the high and dry is that some sort of marijuana? I agree safety first
That would make it all a whole lot more interesting.

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Old 08-16-2012   #43
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I'm now offering 30 day trial for $1
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Old 08-16-2012   #44
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i dont know what to think about it. it could be a good thing or a bad thing, i think it would teach people bad habbits if u cant roll on your own you need to get your ass back to the pool!
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Old 08-17-2012   #45
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Originally Posted by Gary D View Post
I noticed alot of people automatically assume this is a device you will want to take off asap... but what many will soon find is that you are a lot safer on rivers with it. It is great for shielding the face when under water and gets you into your set position and out of the water fast. My dad and I have zero intention of ever kayaking without one.
Not sure I can see this being a safety tool. I can see the buoyancy fighting against you in a hole ride. More buoyancy means more retention in hydraulics. period. I can also see this leading to shoulder dislocation with the added surface area catching current. The video shows how "safe" this will make holding a paddle because it is padded when it hits your face, so wear a full face if you are concerned about hits, this seems to be much more likely to pop back and hit you in the face just based on the above. I can also see this being more prone to being ripped out of your hands. I would rather miss a roll and still have a paddle in my hands.
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Old 08-18-2012   #46
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As an instructor, this has to be the worst "teaching aid" I have ever seen. Like it has been mentioned time and time again in this thread, learning proper technique for rolling/bracing is way more important to having fun on the water and staying out of the hospital.
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Old 08-18-2012   #47
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all it seems to me is somebody is trying to make a buck in sport they dont quite grasp. Whitewater kayaking isnt a instant gratification sport like your aiming this device towards. good luck with your shaft wrap
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Old 08-18-2012   #48
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Now if it had an air reservoir so you can breathe because you havent perfected your roll
Hey, if you want me to take a dump in a box and mark it "guaranteed", I will. I got spare time.
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Old 08-20-2012   #49
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That dude's dad is David Letterman?
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Old 11-05-2012   #50
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I've got a bunch of new videos up that demonstrate the Hi-N-Dry works well for sea kayakers, works great in holes, works great in class 4 whitewater (haven't tested in class 5 yet), works great for surfing, protects the face while whitewater kayaking, does not get pulled out of your hands at any time, does not cause shoulder injuries but helps to prevent them, is great for teaching beginners, is great for advanced paddlers as well, helps with playboating tricks, and much more! Check them out: shaftfloat - YouTube

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