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Old 01-15-2007   #1
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Good beds or mattress pads or (???) for shoulder injuries


I suffered a paddling-related shoulder injury 4+ years ago (bad bracing, high water - sound familiar ? ) I've been using an older bed but got rid of it. I am now using a firm futon that seems to aggravate my shoulder.

I'd love to stay with a futon - I don't have a good reason; I just like them. But I want what's best for my shoulder. Does anyone have any suggestions or advice (memory foam mattresses, pads, magnetic pads, pillow-top, original helpful ideas...etc) I'd like to budget if possible.

Much thanks for any insights or suggestions!


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Old 01-16-2007   #2
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An affinity for futons needs no explanation. Flip...fuck. What else is there to say?

Still, not the most comfortable sleeping arrangment. Some folks I know with back problems, etc. have had lots of success with the "sleep number" bed. I think they may be quite expensive, but can you really put a price on waking up in the morning without pain? I sound like the infomercial now.

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Old 01-16-2007   #3
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The gel beds, not that memory foam stuff, are suppose to be nice. I've laid on them but never sleep on one. But again very pricey, which is why I still don't have one. Some coworkers of my wife have one and they say it is great. I think they may sell just a pad to put on your existing bed.
There is a store that sells them near the REI by Park Meadows. It's the only bed they sell. There is also one of those better back kind of stores next door which might give you so more options.
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Old 01-16-2007   #4
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I don't know the answer but I can tell you.....after dislocating my shoulder and then spending the night on a Paco pad on a wood floor......that is not the way to go at all! There are not enough pain-killers in the world to make that comfy.....Good luck with your decision....
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kayakArk, are you in Memphis? or is graceland a state of mind?
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I've had some residual shoulder pain from a rotator cuff tear done hand-rolling five years ago. For now, no surgery, but I might need it someday, esp. if it gets worse. I have frequent shoulder pain sleeping since it is the left one and that is the side I sleep on. I've tried to force myself to sleep on my right side, and that has had limited success. I always go left in my sleep. I did find that having pillows arranged correctly seems to help a lot in terms of keeping the joint somewhat restricted in movement.

I never had a bad night of sleep back when I had a waterbed, so that might be an idea. I got rid of mine mostly for environmental reasons (it has to be plugged in to keep the water at a comfortable temperature). I'm beginning to think it was a mistake, esp. now that I have a dust mite allergy. So maybe try a waterbed - you can probably find one for free or dirt cheap on Craigslist. FWIW.
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Originally Posted by gh
kayakArk, are you in Memphis? or is graceland a state of mind?
Just a state of mind....I move all over the place on a fairly regular basis.....Elvis is my hero.....
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I had major shoulder issues for a long time during my college days. For years I would wake up from a dead sleep if I rolled over onto my shoulders wrong. Finally after years of discomfort I went to a great message therapist. He was able to breakup years of scare tissue and I felt almost instant relief. I don’t know if it will work for you, but it’s a lot cheaper than surgery.

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I would have to agree with Don, message and PT is the only thing going to help you out. I know it has been a while but strengthening will always make the situation better. Stretching will do wonders as well.

As for the bed situation it depends on how much you really want to spend and your location (things can always be shipped though). I would recommend www.lebeda.com They make the bed for you by hand after the order is done. You can take a standard bed in their fleet and customize it to your needs. I did this and have been happier ever since.

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16 years of skiing (5 in competitive freestyle) and 10 years of kayaking have contributed to my having a tight back everymorning when I wake up. I stretch every morning when I wake up and every night before I go to bed and that makes everything feel better. I have a Sleep Number bed in house #1 and a really high quality mattress (the Keystone Mattress from Denver Mattress Company) in house #2. I like being able to change the sleep number based on how my body feels (soreness, etc.) to a softer of firmer setting BUT I actually sleep better on the bed with the Keystone Mattress. I've found that both are just as good when it comes to my back (I choose not to call them back problems because that would imply that I should see a doctor, who will then tell me not to ski and kayak). I've had a couple contusions/subluxations on my left shoulder (done skiing, not kayaking; and fortunately my off-side). It bothered me a lot sleeping at first; I would have to strap the ice pack to it when I went to bed. But again, neither bed was any better. Long story short, I'm sorry I can't help specifically with your shoulder issues but because of sleep quality I would definately opt for getting a really good mattress that suits you over a Sleep Number bed. Always wanted a waterbed, though.


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